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Q&A#73 Were Rebekah and Jacob Justified in Deceiving Isaac?

Alastair Roberts

Q&A#73 Were Rebekah and Jacob Justified in Deceiving Isaac?

October 17, 2018
Alastair Roberts
Alastair Roberts

Today's question: "Having read Jordan’s “Primeval saints” I find that he interprets the life of Jacob through a different lens from a more recent reformation reading. Specifically in the story of Jacob “stealing” the birthright, Jordan posits that Rebekah and Jacob are righteously deceiving Isaac in order for him to “regain sight” and be restored. Because the promise to Jacob had already been given, Rebekah and Jacob were acting righteously, even in lying. Jordan says that because Isaac has turned into a Tyrant, the only way to restore him is through deception. Curious to hear your thoughts on this passage which may/may not be often misunderstood. What is going on and are we to condemn Jacob/Rebekah for what they did or see it as an act of faith?"

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