![](https://opentheo.org/_content/image/id/4593671619917993571.jpeg?h=954&t=0&w=1696&s=lHCV5sSRunF4Fxg_cJ7ZyQEQZ_TDrKaJFhQUGu17hMo)
Evangelicalism, Elites, and Excellence with Aaron Renn
Life and Books and Everything — Clearly ReformedEvangelicalism, Elites, and Excellence with Aaron Renn
![Life and Books and Everything](https://opentheo.org/_content/image/id/4593671619917993571.jpeg?h=80&t=0&w=80&s=pJAY8mWIeXM-LvRUqgjRQ_mZYuI-2Znggv4nJ8pDnAc)
Coming out of a consulting background, Aaron Renn is now a regular contributor to many important conversations among Christians and conservatives. In this interview, Kevin asks Aaron about the three worlds of evangelicalism and how we should think about elites. They also discuss where evangelicalism has faltered and where it has been too hard on itself.
Intro & Sponsor [0:00-1:37]
Guest: Aaron Renn [1:38-7:47]
Rose-Colored Rural Areas [7:48-10:29]
What Does Western Society Think of the Church? [10:30-23:50]
Evangelical Self-Flaggellation [23:51-26:50]
Do Evangelicals Lack Cultural Influence? [26:51-34:48]
The Evangelical "Middle-Class Mindset" [34:49-40:24]
A Call to Lay Intellectual Engagement [40:25-50:44]
Sponsor 2 [50:45-51:30]
Evangelicals and Elites [51:31-59:22]
Constantine and "Christian Nationalism" [59:23-1:08:31]
Final Plugs [1:08:32-1:10:39]
The Masculinist
Aaron Renn Substack
The Right: The Hundred-Year War for American Conservatism - Matthew Continetti
The Conservative Intellectual Movement in America Since 1945 - George Nash
"The Tinkerings of Robert Noyce" - Tom Wolfe
To Change the World: The Irony, Tragedy, and Possibility of Christianity in the Late Modern World - James Davison Hunter
The Mortification of Sin - edited by Aaron M. Renn
More From Life and Books and Everything
![The Case for Kids](https://opentheo.org/_content/image/id/4593671619917993571.jpeg?h=224&t=0&w=224&s=b6IXcmfjUv2RNvm_FJwgBcqPeqcZo1U4LFqVu7tp8yg)
![Life and Ministry with Sinclair Ferguson](https://opentheo.org/_content/image/id/4593671619917993571.jpeg?h=224&t=0&w=224&s=b6IXcmfjUv2RNvm_FJwgBcqPeqcZo1U4LFqVu7tp8yg)
![Does Christianity Transcend All Our Political Disagreements?](https://opentheo.org/_content/image/id/4593671619917993571.jpeg?h=224&t=0&w=224&s=b6IXcmfjUv2RNvm_FJwgBcqPeqcZo1U4LFqVu7tp8yg)
![A Lifetime of Books and Ministry with D.A. Carson](https://opentheo.org/_content/image/id/4593671619917993571.jpeg?h=224&t=0&w=224&s=b6IXcmfjUv2RNvm_FJwgBcqPeqcZo1U4LFqVu7tp8yg)
![From Silence, to Complexification, to Capitulation](https://opentheo.org/_content/image/id/4593671619917993571.jpeg?h=224&t=0&w=224&s=b6IXcmfjUv2RNvm_FJwgBcqPeqcZo1U4LFqVu7tp8yg)
![Apologetics and Critical Race Theory with Neil Shenvi](https://opentheo.org/_content/image/id/4593671619917993571.jpeg?h=224&t=0&w=224&s=b6IXcmfjUv2RNvm_FJwgBcqPeqcZo1U4LFqVu7tp8yg)
More on OpenTheo
![Do You Believe in the Clarity of Scripture?](https://opentheo.org/_content/image/id/8727976077844167577.jpeg?h=224&t=0&w=224&s=APfQu9ZET4PcyHQJWvEfOpC6rbhSEgkg978Hy0-iTlE)
![Lydia McGrew Answered! More Methodological Missteps](https://opentheo.org/_content/image/id/2549037389094115201.jpeg?h=224&t=0&w=224&s=TXp_lTfXdoPo_J2in4dgG-bg4sh33jqdlgTWOxv0nBI)
![Pentecost and the Gift of the Spirit (with Rev Benjamin Miller)](https://opentheo.org/_content/image/id/3377699720529614244.jpeg?h=224&t=0&w=224&s=E8qrF8JbXDPz6TS3nbjiya4CmL1yCQRH1ECKx7REwkU)
![Why Weren’t the Israelites Explicitly Forbidden to Practice Polygamy?](https://opentheo.org/_content/image/id/8727976077844167577.jpeg?h=224&t=0&w=224&s=APfQu9ZET4PcyHQJWvEfOpC6rbhSEgkg978Hy0-iTlE)
![What’s the Best Evidence for the Reliability of the Old Testament?](https://opentheo.org/_content/image/id/8727976077844167577.jpeg?h=224&t=0&w=224&s=APfQu9ZET4PcyHQJWvEfOpC6rbhSEgkg978Hy0-iTlE)
![#220 Understanding the Concept of Satan in the Bible (Replay)](https://opentheo.org/_content/image/id/900719925474666491.jpeg?h=224&t=0&w=224&s=iklzYzK_9Tkamda4NMyKMyA_v-F2-QWHQd3vbp2Qpeg)
![Anticipations of Pentecost (with Rev Benjamin Miller)](https://opentheo.org/_content/image/id/5260204364770376706.jpeg?h=224&t=0&w=224&s=evHp2HenrfmdW7y74-wr9MY7HDBHOVfEKK_zsEtXZ2s)
![What Should I Say to a Reformed Christian Who Dismisses Many Non-Believers as Lost Causes?](https://opentheo.org/_content/image/id/8727976077844167577.jpeg?h=224&t=0&w=224&s=APfQu9ZET4PcyHQJWvEfOpC6rbhSEgkg978Hy0-iTlE)
![Lydia McGrew Answered! On Gospel Differences](https://opentheo.org/_content/image/id/2549037389094115201.jpeg?h=224&t=0&w=224&s=TXp_lTfXdoPo_J2in4dgG-bg4sh33jqdlgTWOxv0nBI)
![Lydia McGrew Answered! Black & White Thinking](https://opentheo.org/_content/image/id/2549037389094115201.jpeg?h=224&t=0&w=224&s=TXp_lTfXdoPo_J2in4dgG-bg4sh33jqdlgTWOxv0nBI)
![Is It Okay to Cover a Coworker’s Shift so They Can Officiate a Same-Sex Wedding?](https://opentheo.org/_content/image/id/8727976077844167577.jpeg?h=224&t=0&w=224&s=APfQu9ZET4PcyHQJWvEfOpC6rbhSEgkg978Hy0-iTlE)
![Is Matthew 23:23 an Argument for Social Justice?](https://opentheo.org/_content/image/id/8727976077844167577.jpeg?h=224&t=0&w=224&s=APfQu9ZET4PcyHQJWvEfOpC6rbhSEgkg978Hy0-iTlE)
![Won’t Jesus Only Be Able to Interact with One Person at a Time?](https://opentheo.org/_content/image/id/8727976077844167577.jpeg?h=224&t=0&w=224&s=APfQu9ZET4PcyHQJWvEfOpC6rbhSEgkg978Hy0-iTlE)
![#224 Is the world doomed? Global justice and climate change (replay)](https://opentheo.org/_content/image/id/900719925474666491.jpeg?h=224&t=0&w=224&s=iklzYzK_9Tkamda4NMyKMyA_v-F2-QWHQd3vbp2Qpeg)
![Can Christians Who Have Died Hear Our Requests for Prayer?](https://opentheo.org/_content/image/id/8727976077844167577.jpeg?h=224&t=0&w=224&s=APfQu9ZET4PcyHQJWvEfOpC6rbhSEgkg978Hy0-iTlE)