Aaron Rogers and The Hat Man

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Aaron Rogers and The Hat Man

January 25, 2023

This topic has caused some buzz recently. I thought I ought to address it from a Christian perspective. I hope this edifies and blesses you. Be sure to look at the links in the show notes for this one. For The King!

Links:

* Article on Aaron Roger's Hat Man: https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2022/08/NFL-Star-Aaron-Rodgers-Shares-His-Scary-Encounters-With-the-Hat-Man/

* Article on Aaron Roger's Hat Man: https://www.essentiallysports.com/nfl-news-aaron-rodgers-narrates-his-spine-chilling-encounter-with-a-mysterious-hat-man-during-his-trip-to-peru-veiled-by-darkness-holding-the-corpse-of-a-dead/

* Article on Aaron Roger's Hat Man: https://wisconsinnews.today/rodgers-wont-stop-talking-about-the-hat-man-since-his-ayahuasca-trip/

* Funny Meme -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA4LKxj81zc

* -> IMPORTANT <-Video on Hat Man : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCTnW3P2LuQ

* Christian Testimony on Psychedelics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BmqCZMLjEE

* Christian Testimony on Psychedelics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-OlwZLCzrc

Key Texts on Pharmakeia:

* Galatians 5:20

* Revelation 9:21

* Revelation 18:23

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Transcript

(music) Don't think I will even ask you to make Jesus Lord of your life. That's the most preposterous thing I could ever tell you to do. Jesus Christ is Lord of your life.

Whether you serve him or not, whether you bless him, curse him, hate him or love him, he is the Lord of your life. Because God has given him a name that is above every name so that the name of Jesus Christ every knee shall bow and tongue confess that he is Lord. Some of you will bow out of the grace that has been given to you and others will bow because your kneecaps will be broken by the one who rules the nations with a rod of iron.

(music) And I'll not apologize for this God of the Bible.

(music) Hello, welcome to the For the King podcast. This is your host, Rocky Ramsey.

I am joined with Noah, Hey, and Carter. Hey. These guys have been on here before.

You guys know these. If you're a listener to the podcast, you're aware of these two guys. They're some of my good friends.

And on this podcast, we proclaim that edicts of the king, namely and chiefly that Yahweh reigns. So what are we talking about today? We are going to be diving into some kind of recent developments. Not too recent, but it's kind of been newer to me about Aaron Rodgers, an NFL quarterback.

He is, well, he has been talking about seeing this man named the Hat Man, both in his waking hours. I think he talks about it when he sleeps. He sees this being often.

So we want to talk about that. If you look in the notes section, I'll just say this in passing and you can go click on this link. But in the notes section of the podcast, I want to put a video on YouTube of them reporting on this is a phenomenon that's been happening all over the world.

Hat Man is not just like people in the US see the Hat Man when they when they sleep. And sometimes they wake up and see this being all over the world. There is the exact same description of this Hat Man.

So if you're looking at like psychoanalysis or looking at psychology of like hallucinations, if you could say that it's manufactured in the brain of the human if all of the hallucinations are unique, but all of them have the exact same details, which lends itself to being a reality outside of these people's minds. Do you see the logic there? And with that same logic, there's some who would deny the resurrection of Christ. In his resurrected appearance to people, there's a theory of, oh, they all just hallucinate.

Exactly. You know, like a bunch of individuals, but then a group like a group, it becomes super. It's very hard to.

Yeah, it's there's not a lot of great evidence against that. It's really difficult to. Yeah.

And continue with that. And there is like data on hallucinations, but they always are unique to each person. It has a hallucination like a drug induced hallucination.

It's always unique or whatever. These are not hallucinations. Yeah.

These are actual beings outside of these people's minds that they're seeing. So go check out that video. It's going to it's going to show you and remind you that the spiritual world is very, very real.

All the atheists, unfortunately, are wrong. There's no, there is a higher plane. There is an immaterial spiritual reality.

And it's very obvious all over the world. People have these sightings. We don't even have to talk about God and the resurrection of Christ and all that.

Let's just, this episode is going to be purely on spiritual phenomena outside of like explicitly in scripture. So we're going to be referring to that today. And we, if you go back to the very first episode, right after the pilot episode that I did on my podcast, we talk about aliens.

Same thing. Same thing. All yeah.

That you guys were there. I don't know. Yeah, you were there too.

Yeah. So you guys have been aliens too. I know Matt talking about seeing aliens and stuff, but same thing with aliens.

People describe the same thing. They didn't read science fiction novels or all that. These are people that see aliens and they all look the same.

So, that's kind of, that's what the foundation I want to lay for this podcast that go check out that video, go look at the articles I'm going to put in there about Aaron Rogers talking about this. And we want to just give some commentary on actually what's happening and we want to give a remedy remedy to this as Christians and tell you what the truth is concerning these, this hat, man, these demons, this kind of thing. So that's kind of the foundation work.

That's what's happening here. Any, any thoughts for you guys before we get into it? Yeah, I think it'll just be helpful to kind of lay out really what this is spiritually. It's yes.

With a good, with the Christian mindset, with a Christian worldview, understanding that Christ is the Lord of the heavens and the earth. And so when we start to take into our own hands, going into essentially the heavenly realm without his guidance or maybe even permission, you start to get into trouble and for somebody who's deceived and lost, it can seem like a very transcendental experience, but it's not, it's always out of a place of deception because all that stuff is until what lead them away from the reality that Christ is the King. So it's going to seem like it has some merit to it, but ultimately it's, it's really good.

It's, it doesn't pan out that way. That's good. Yeah.

It's extremely dangerous. I mean, that Carter said you're going into a realm that's somewhat unnatural to you. I mean, we as Christians believe that each individual person made of the image of God is both a body and a soul.

It's holistic. They're not like really distinctive parts. It's all one whole.

Yes. Yes. But I mean, we exist or like our everyday life is in, um, man, I'm trying to, I'm trying to be kind of careful here, but, um, yeah, you're encroaching on something that is somewhat unnatural to you.

And if you don't have the protection of the Holy spirit, um, yeah, I think seeing it kind of hairy. Yeah. You're dead meat.

And he's not saying if you're a Christian, then you have free reign to go. Yeah. Of course.

Even if they're Christian, they're dangerous. Exactly. Probably even more.

So yeah. Yeah. Um, so I guess where the kind of, where the story starts is obviously with drugs and Rogers talks about going on a, uh, like a spiritual journey.

He goes and takes ayahuasca. Should we, should we explain what ayahuasca is for people who may not know? Yeah. You have full disclosure.

I don't know a whole lot about this. Just like that. This thing happened where Aaron Rogers, yeah, we don't see a drug in a seeing this demon.

Yeah. We don't need to go into real deep, like real deep detail. That's not what I intended.

I want to make people aware of the story. Yeah. We want basic detail.

Like what does it mean? Like, did he go and smoke a joint or did he go and like shoot himself up? Like it's yeah. So ayahuasca is like a common, uh, drug that native American or indigenous tribes in like South America have done for a very long time. Right.

I believe it's a tea that they brew. Yeah. Okay.

And then there's like an intense session of like puking and throwing up. I think once you get through that, you kind of enter this lucid. So you go on your trip.

Yeah. You enter like the trip. Yeah.

Yeah. Um, you go into the spiritual realm. Yeah.

So people pursue it to, uh, like Aaron Rogers said that he wanted to kind of like discover more about himself, discover what kind of like maybe the meaning of life is or like how to love people better and how to be a better human. That's why people will turn to drugs because it makes them feel good. And even like psychedelic drugs, like, like people will do alcohol and other kinds of drugs, uh, like marijuana and stuff, not necessarily to have a spiritual experience, but just to feel good.

And then there are the drugs that are literally gateways to the spiritual world that people do explicitly to like find a higher meaning to get a message from it. Yeah. And there's been anecdotal evidence of do it.

Like, you know, after drinking ayahuasca, they come through and they have like some ailments that are a leave, um, mental and psychotic stuff. But yeah. And not to say that it's totally without merit, but like the purpose is God made everything.

But when it taken in this state, it is deceptive and like dark and exact dark spirituality. So not to say that you couldn't find some good medical derivatives from it. You might be able to, but I mean, we, right now our culture doesn't really have with the pharmaceutical industry, our culture is not thinking that way.

They don't want to take these powerful plants and plant medicines and actually try to harvest them into many like them to help people. Yeah. They want to enslave people.

Yeah, exactly. So yeah. Yeah.

No, I agree. So that's kind of where the story starts. He goes, he goes there to do this.

That's, this is what ayahuasca is. It's a drug. It's a T you go on a, like usually the indigenous people, like, like rich people will go spend a month or so with this tribe and they'll take ayahuasca and go on their trip and learn something.

There's a shaman that leads. Yes. I mean, it's very, it's religious.

It's not, it's a ritual. That's what I mean. Like people don't, that's don't think, oh, I'm doing a ritual when I drink a beer or when I smoke weed or something, they're not doing it.

But ayahuasca is like used in these, like for a religious purpose in these indigenous, like animistic religions. So that's the background. That's what he did.

Now, what was the effect? What happened? Well, um, as far as I know, he talks about, you know, there are some things he discovered and he's, he thought he got some good out of it. But the side effect that I want to talk about is that he has since been reoccurringly seeing the hat man. Okay.

So like I said, go look at that video and so like hat man is a phenomenon that's seen all around the world. Uh, same outline, same kind of figure. This is usually a, um, a being that appears to, appears to you in the night.

Usually it's accompanied by sleep paralysis. So if you don't know what sleep paralysis is, sorry about that for a second. That's, that is a, usually a spiritual experience that people have where like, like there's even medieval art about this.

The medieval people even recognize this as like, you're going through some kind of spiritual experience. It's called the demon on the chest. Yeah.

And there is even art from medieval artists that show a person in a bed with a demon on their chest and their eyes are open, but they can't move. That was sleep paralysis. People still experience this today.

Now, have you, have you guys ever? Yes, I have. I haven't. It sucks.

Yeah. It's awful. Now I didn't have a, I didn't, I went in and experienced it being, but I have experienced sleep paralysis and it is very frightening.

I mean, it is an awful experience. And then to have something in your room that's attacking you on top of that. Now I've never, I've never had that.

I don't know. Have you, what do you, what did you guys experience with it? I haven't, I've heard anecdotes, but nothing for me. You've never even had sleep paralysis.

I've had like very minor, but it didn't, it was like, okay. Nothing that was causing me any concern. Nothing exactly like that.

I think that there have been within dreams of demons. Yes. I think that's more common.

There was one time when we were kids, I remember it pretty vividly, but Noah was sleeping on the top bunk of our bunk bed and he was taking a nap and it was like time to wake up from the nap. And I wanted to play and like, Noah, Noah, Noah. And then he woke up and he's like kind of started.

Like, whoa, what's, what's going on? Like, are you okay? Because I had a dream that a skeleton was about to kill me, but you woke me up just in time. Wow. Like, oh man, that's freaky.

Yeah. Yeah. That's interesting.

So my, I have had like legit sleep paralysis before. Now it was when I was more unhealthy. So I think sometimes there are like physical reasons why it can happen, but it can't have spiritual implications.

There is like a, they're a feeling of doom. I had to like, I, when I had it happen a few times, I had to scream myself out of it. So I remember sitting there, my eyes are open and I can't move.

And I'm like, then I finally got myself to move. Like I started a, like a really dull, like roar. And then I ended up like screaming out of it.

So it's a weird, it is scary. You can't move anything, but you're awake. Yeah.

You've got some weird sleep stuff. Like the story, like for, I mean, the one you've told, you're at youth camp and you're like cussing in your sleep. Yes.

And then, and then this summer in Minnesota and you fell out of your, yes, I know, I know dude. There was, I remember in college, freshman year, I, with my roommate, he said, I would say wild stuff. And one night I was like, I was like, Dylan, it's in the corner.

And he was like, he's, he's there sitting there studying in the room. And I'm like, it's over there in the corner right now. And I'm like up in my bed, but I'm still sleeping and it really freaked him out and stuff.

So like, I think, so here, here's kind of where I want to go with this. Your, your mind can interface with the spiritual world. Yes.

That is possible. And when you dream, I think that's happening sometimes. And I think, I think when I sleep sometimes I do see things and something that appears to me and I get a glimpse into the spiritual realm, but I'm still kind of in the physical world.

I'm not fully there. So that's why I think like, yeah, like nightmares happen. And like the dream world is in a sense, yeah, there's a spiritual reality there.

So what do you think? It's interesting. This whole hat man phenomenon is very similar to the Bigfoot phenomenon where people are coming to realize that Bigfoot is actually just a demon. And I've heard stories where somebody who's trying to find Bigfoot, like invited him into his life and like started meeting him outside.

And it's like this is this whole thing. And he realized it was a demon and it eventually led him to Christ. So it's good.

Praise God. It's kind of cool. Same thing with aliens.

So I guess when we go into this and we talk about this, just so you guys know, the Christian world, you can account for all the cryptozoology stuff, all of the phenomena with demons, all the dream stuff, all the drug stuff where people see things. This is called demons. That's what it's called.

That's what's happening. So that's where we're going to move forward with this right now. I mean, that's kind of where we're going with it.

Sleep paralysis is a thing. And the hat man is usually accompanied with sleep paralysis. Also, people will go on trips and take drugs and then they'll start seeing hat man.

Now Aaron Rodgers, this is how he invited hat man in. This is a being that doesn't just go to anybody. As a Christian, you won't ever encounter this.

You won't be seeing often demons. Unless they're inhabiting a person. Yeah, unless they're inhabiting a person or something.

But you won't as a Christian be like encountering this unless you apostate. If you go apostate and invite these things into your life, yeah, this could happen. But if the true Christian that's born again that will not turn away from Christ, that will persevere to the end, will be safe and sound because of God's Holy Spirit will protect you.

No reason to be concerned. No reason to be concerned. So this is a grave warning for those of you that maybe don't know Christ, the atheist that's listening, the nonbeliever that's listening, the new ager that takes these kind of drugs.

You can hear account after account of new age people or people that go and go on. I want to send you a couple testimonies that I have of Christians who before they were saved. But one of them is before they were saved was basically a shaman.

And he talked about his journey of people, other shamans teaching him this spiritual journeying and how to basically pull a spirit out of his body. Yeah, Ashwin and Jack and stuff. Yeah.

Yeah. It's crazy. Actually, in this account, it's like 10 parts.

It's pretty long, but I listened to it all and it's pretty wild. But he talks about seeing the hat man after he started doing this. Really? Really? Yeah.

I don't know if he did any like hard plant medicines. He was just able to do it. And some people are just seems like more gifted in that area.

And like, so there was a book that I read in college called prophecy in the ancient near east or religion in the ancient near east, something like that, giving some historical geographical context to what the Israelite, you know, Jewish religion was surrounded by at that time. And a lot of it was shamanistic people where the gods, the demons, the powers, you know, whatever the Bible describes them, the principalities, the rulers and the authorities. Yeah, exactly.

They will get in contact with one person and kind of choose them. Like you're going to be my, my prophet, essentially teach the people, teach the people and like do this and it will go well with you. And exactly.

So that was how the gods related to people like that. And it's, and it's the same today. Like you can just take drugs and meet with these beings.

Exactly. Do do that. So that's why God, that's why God, thank you.

Yeah. And I'll put it in there for the people. Yeah.

And that's why God forbids it in Deuteronomy. He says no sorcery, no necromancy, none of that. You're not doing any of that because if you go by those, like the methodology is important.

Yeah. If you use those methods to achieve spiritual enlightenment, you will meet with demons. That's what God says.

If you listen to my words, if you do all that I've commanded you, if you, if you know, here, Israel, Lord, I'm the Lord, God is one. I am the God that brought you out of Egypt, that out of the bondage of slavery. And then he gives them his law.

Yeah. And he says, if you do these things, then you will be blessed. You as a human, you live in God's world.

So you do things. If you want to reach spiritual enlightenment, if you want to be mature spiritually, if you want to have a spiritual experience, you do it the way God told you to anything outside of that is not the way God has prescribed you to do it. And therefore you will only meet with demons.

You will meet with demons and that's it. That's the only people you'll ever meet on the other, on the other side in the spiritual realm. I sent you another video.

This one was a testimony of somebody who was a Christian at the time and took psilocybin mushrooms, magic mushrooms. Yeah. And he described his experience and basically was taken out of his body into the spirit world and saw like the heavenly realms and saw demons accusing him before Christ and saying like he ate off of our table.

Wow. It was a thing that he said that really stuck with me. So it is kind of a pulling you back to see really in Deuteronomy.

That's a really good tie in to show this is what these pagan nations are doing. You're set apart. You are a holy nation, a royal priesthood who belonged to God.

You're not to act in this way. You're not to do this way. I prescribe the way that you worship.

Exactly. Right. So yeah, there is only one way to God and this by Jesus Christ when you willingly subject yourself to spiritual beings using these kinds of drugs.

Um, like the thing is you, you really have no control over the experience. These beings are significantly more intelligent than any human and they each have their own agenda and they're willing to use you for whatever they want. And yeah, like if you're willing to give them what they want, then they'll reward you.

That's, that's how it's always. They're not there to help you. They're not there to care for you.

God is your father. He wants to care for you. Right.

He wants to be a father to you. Jesus wants to save your soul from the pit of hell. These beings don't want to help you.

That's our exhortation. That's our warning. Aaron Rogers is playing with fire.

He, and he talks poorly about the hat man. He realizes this isn't good. I don't like this.

I had fun when I was doing ayahuasca, but now this, what did he do? He opened up the door for beings that hate him to come and be even closer to him than they were before. There is a sense in which God's kindness to all mankind keeps them generally safe. God gives them a general inability to be as in tune with the spiritual world as they could be.

Now, when you take drugs, you open yourself up. You've taken off the protection of your conscience, which is the God's law written on your heart and all that. You take that off.

You basically like take all of the humanity off of yourself and try to go into the spiritual world where you don't belong and you have no power. It's like trying to swim in the ocean with a shark around. You're going to get wrecked.

Yeah. Go ahead. Well, actually get rotated, bro.

Yeah. Rotated. Yeah.

Get rotated. You could get rotated by accident. It's a meme I saw.

I'm sorry. I'll put the meme in here too. So you guys know, get rotated, bro.

So it's like that. It's like a, a human trying to switch to live in the ocean. He won't do it.

He's not made for that. You're not made to be with demons. You're made, you're, you're made in the image of God.

You're made to reflect him. We're made from the earth. Yeah.

You're not made to be trying to stamp around in a spiritual realm. So these demons are going to absolutely have a heyday with you and they're having a heyday with Aaron Rogers. And he's, he literally, I saw something recently where he said he, he, he threw an incomplete pass or through an interception because he saw hat man hovering above one of the players and threw it to hat man instead.

I mean, that's wild. They, there's reports that he doesn't like being in the locker room by himself and even his teammates see the lights flickering when he's in there. So like a movie.

Yeah, it is kind of like a movie. So basically like he is, I want you guys just to get a, get a view, like go read CS Lewis's screw tape letters, go read something that actually like opens up your eyes as a Christian to the spiritual reality of the world. What is Aaron Rogers visualize it like this picture.

You're in the spiritual world. Now imagine Aaron Rogers is like this little beacon of light. His, his spirit, his spiritual part is also interfacing at the same time.

All of ours is at the same time. There's spiritual battles going around around us at all times. And imagine he's just emanating and pulsating energy and he's almost like a portal to this world for demons.

He's made himself a portal almost try to imagine that he's made himself liable. He's made himself like he's, he's a man without self control. So he's like a wall.

He's like a city without walls. Imagine that that's why these lights are flickering. He is allowing and he has invited something in that's parasitically attached to him and he has, he cannot fight it because the only thing that can keep you from being possessed, go read Luke 11.

You must have the stronger man to bind the strong man. And that's Jesus. Jesus is the stronger man.

So yeah, that's my exhortation to Aaron. I'll just repent, believe in Christ. You will always be terrorized by this, these kinds of things, unless you have the Holy Spirit and you've let something into your life and it's going to destroy your life.

And one of the things that I've just seen on the internet, cause that's mostly where I see this stuff, just videos and posts and that kind of stuff. You're anecdotes of those who do have sleep paralysis when they call on Christ, they say his name, it like alleviates it. So just very powerful evidence of there's a malicious being there, not with your best interest in mind and to call on Christ's name and to seek after him, he gives grace even to those who are like, you know, they may be his or not.

But for whatever their suffering, he does alleviate that because it's pretty uncommon experience, especially in the West where we have a very scientific materialistic mindset, which, you know, Satan will use that to the exu. It's more advantageous for Satan to convince people that materialism is the truth rather than that there is a spiritual world. Even that spiritual world is deception and darkness.

Yes. That's a good point. That's good.

Thanks. Yes. I think one other thing as we kind of wrap up here that I wanted to bring up is drugs is the conduit to get to the spiritual world.

This is something God has forbid. It's called sorcery. Drugs is a form of sorcery.

That's the claim. It's like a, you know, a potion. It's like a potion.

Yeah. Yeah. It's a substance that helps you interface with the spiritual world.

That's sorcery. So in Galatians 5.20, he's talking about the fruits of, what was he called? The fruits of evil. There's the fruits of the spirit.

And then what's he called? Like the fruits of wickedness, the fruits of the flesh or something in that list. He has sorcery, Galatians five verse 20 as one of them. Also, this word, sorcery appears in revelation 9.21 that these people that repent of their sorceries and revelation 1823, they were deceived by sorcery.

So what is that word for sorcery? It's pharmacia. It's the root word, the Greek word where we now get pharmaceutical pharmacy. I think that's kind of pretty much it, but it's basically the drug industry.

So drugs, pharmacia, this is sorcery via substances that God's put in the world that have spiritual power. So it's cool because we need to, like as Christians, the world is enchanted. God's put items on the earth that have spiritual power.

He's putting little potions and little, like, think about it, like actually have fun with God's world. He's put potions in the world. He's put, he's put like, there's sorceries and there's wizards and there's all these, like there's witch doctors and we got to go fight them and proclaim Christ to them.

And like this world is much more enchanted than you think it is. It's a fairy tale world. And also like, truth is stranger than fiction.

Also on the other end of it, God has made good things. Like there, he's laid out these things you should avoid, but he's also given us many good things of like this, these, these spiritual plants. Yeah.

Like incense. Is incense a plant? No, it's not a plant. It's like herbs and stuff.

But yeah, like medicinal herbs and plants and stuff. Yeah. You know, the tree of life, the leaves are the healing for the nations.

Yeah. God has instilled that into his creation. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, all of these metaphors and symbols and they have a real world impact. I mean, they're everywhere.

Yeah. So when we talk about pharma, we talk about drugs. That is one of the most common ways that sorcery happens in our materialistic Western world.

You do have like tarot card readers and psychics. You do have those kinds of people and every like little small town America, you'll see like a tarot card reading person or like a witch, like there's Wicca now, like you go into Barnes and Nobles, go into the spiritual, the new age spiritual, there's Wicca and witch and how to make potions and how to, I walked into a bookstore one time, a bookstore one time, there was a witch book about how to perform child sacrifice in, like a bookstore. So there are books now available to buy for religions that show that child sacrifice is a way to achieve more spiritual energy and stuff.

So there's a lot of wicked stuff, a lot of sorcery going around. Drugs is one of the most common ones. Don't kids don't take drugs.

Stay in school. Stay in school, stay in public school and don't take drugs. Actually, public schools up there with as bad, almost as bad as drugs.

I'd rather have my kids smoke drugs than they're both pretty bad. It's hard to tell. Hopefully, let's just not choose between both.

How about let's just say both of them don't do it. Yeah, we can do that. We can do that.

Yeah, it's so it's bad and there's a lot of, you know, the drugs are not only like they're not just this kind of mundane physical thing to give you a high that's just chemicals fizzing in your brain. You might experience something that attaches to you like a parasite that you can't get off you and it's called hat man and he's going to torment you. He's going to be there every night, maybe not every night, but he might wait.

You might wake up paralyzed. He's on your chest. He's freaking you out.

I've heard some stories on that video. If you guys look at that YouTube video where sometimes hat man will send ghouls from him to the person to attack them. They wake up bruised, battered and with scratches.

Oh, wow. So hat man's not like your mud. He's not a friend.

He is a, he's a demon. Um, and we always need to remember this as Christians. Go read the book of Jude.

Even the archangel Michael did not rebuke Satan. He said the Lord rebuke you. So don't think you have any power in and of yourself as a human to fight these things off.

You can't hire somebody. So you can't hire another witch doctor to help you get this other, uh, ayahuasca based demon off your back. You can't, the Lord rebuke you Satan.

I have no power to help you. Uh, no witch doctor, no scientist. You can't go to a psychologist to help you work through your problems and sit on the sit on a couch and he's going to help you get rid of hat man.

No, there's only way to get rid of alien abductions, Bigfoot sightings, uh, hat man, all that stuff. It's got to be the Holy spirit. Huh? Slender man, all that stuff.

I mean, these are demons and you have to have the Holy spirit, the Lord rebuke you. Not me, not even, not even the archangel Michael talked flippantly about powers and evil things. You have no power in and of yourself.

Repent and believe in Christ. Right. I think it's also, I think worth noting that Christians cannot be possessed by demons.

Exactly. If you, if you are in joint indwelt with the Holy spirit, um, you are under his protection. You know, you bear the Lord's name, so you're not subject to demon possession, but, um, like as Christians, we still need to be discerning when it comes to these substances.

Um, like even when we're dreaming, we might enter interface, like have some kind of interaction with the demon who's going to attack you. Exactly. Um, and we can only prevail by the power of the Holy spirit.

Exactly. Yeah. Be a spirit led man.

And even in your dreams, you can remember the truth of God and God will defend you because yeah, I've had, I've had scary moments with, we were talking about that out of a Dan's farm, Dan Dan's farm. Uh, you can, as a Christian, be oppressed by demons. You could have demonic activity around you.

Yeah. You can't be possessed and they can't harm you, but they could scare you. They could, they could do things around you to, to frighten you and tempt you, tempt you, sway you, put away your faith.

Yes. I've had dreams where I've seen like what seems to me is like they're super vivid, but I see beings and they're like in the forms of animals and there are old, old, like shamanistic religions that interface with animals and the hell is called animism. And that, you know, that that's just trying to think like the, who was it? It was like the Vikings like tried to channel like in war, like they would take the berserkers would take like mushrooms and they would just go into a blind rage and they would just kill everybody.

And so, and it was like, and then they would be split up based on like a type of animal and they had different styles would be like a bear and a boar and something else. But anyway, I, in, in my dreams, I remember one vividly where it was like a black bear, but or no, black, black bears, smaller one, right? It was like, it was like a brown bear, but it was like a big, yeah, just a huge bear, but like totally jet black fur and everything. And its face was like really long and like kind of, it was like leathery.

So, and it was like kind of ruffled up around the nose, but it was like definitely some kind of bear form. And I was just like walking through this weird, like it was like disjointed terrain or like rock and it was like rock, but then it was just like uneven and it was just like really weird. And then I came like I was walking and he like came like in front of me and then like looked at me, but he seemed just kind of indifferent and then he like moved on and it like took me out.

Like, yeah, he was just like, like, like, yeah, like, yeah, it seemed like, oh, I can't do anything with him, but there was another one and saying that just reminded me of it. There was a, um, I was like, I was with, it was named gas. I was with named gas in my dream and were like, I don't know, like going through a forest and all of a sudden there's like a lion, like 30 feet away and it spots us and it like just looks at us and roars.

Oh crap. So we, so we run and we have to go like, so we're running out of the small forested area and there's a little like hut with a fence attached to it. So we go along the fence, go around and that's like right on us.

And I go into the door, but it's like the lion's like clawing at the door and trying to get out and we're both in there and I had a knife and so I, I don't know. This is just like what my reaction was like in the dream and this is what happened. Like I pulled the knife out and I said Jesus' name as I like stabbed the knife into the door frame.

And as soon as I did that, he just liked the lion just looked and walked off. Wow. You said Jesus.

Yeah. Wow. And then, and then just walked away.

Yep. Yeah. Jesus' name is powerful.

The demons flee. They, uh, that's, that's cool. Cool little story.

So yeah, don't, uh, don't read into your dreams or try to interpret them as like having spiritual truth, but realize in your dreams when animals come that are like something's trying to attack you in your dream, you don't walk, you don't walk around in your, in your daily life thinking, what if a lion attack, you're not, you're not dwelling on that. When something you're not dwelling on shows up in your dream and it just kind of comes out of nowhere, you can probably assume something was planted and cause you can't dream about things you're thinking about. And those are the mundane kind of like natural dreams you have.

There are some dreams that come out of nowhere and you're like, okay, what? That was out of nowhere. It's wonky. I have some that are like pretty weird.

I have some really, I have some that are very normal and like something that I've experienced recently and it's not anything novel. Sometimes I do have something that I'm like, that was out of left field and yeah, there was something evil and I was bad sinister. So, so just, yes.

Any last thoughts guys? Uh, yeah, we prayed for Aaron before this. We encourage you guys to pray for Aaron as well. These people are people like him that do ayahuasca are enslaved demons, probably demon possessed.

Yeah. They can't do anything about it. They're helpless.

Um, let's proclaim the gospel to these people. And, uh, honestly, atheism materialism is on its way out. Most philosophers are usually dualistic.

They believe in some kind of like metaphysical spiritual reality to the world. Most scientists are like that. Now the majority of people that are atheistic materialists are the low level peons in society.

The people at the top are all Satanists, new agey kind of people that want to get their power from these evil wicked places. So just know that's coming. Yeah.

Uh, you know, there'll be more of that as Christians. There's always going to be this kind of warfare until Jesus puts every Psalm 110, uh, one, he's going to put every enemy under his feet. Yeah.

So until that happens, expect war, spiritual war, proclaim the gospel to these people, encourage people not to take drugs and not to achieve spirituality through anything, but the way God's words prescribed us to do. That's our main point in this episode. Pray for Aaron Rogers.

We hope that this maybe gave you a different perspective on your Christian walk. Don't, don't live your life functionally as a materialist that you just think this material world is it expect the world to be enchanted, expect the world to be imbued with spiritual realities and metaphors and things that, that make sense that are not just physical truths, but metaphysical truths, spiritual truths, um, lessons that you learned throughout the day. A lesson is not a physical thing.

You can't grab a lesson and hold it in your hand. It's not material. You have spiritual things happening to you every single day.

Live your life as a Christian in light of that. Not like an atheist, not like a material is that it's just this world and that's it. So when you look up at the stars, don't think of flaming balls of gas.

Think of those are angels up there looking down at us. When you look at the sun, think about God, the life giving force, too bright to look at. He's going to burn me.

He's holy. Think about that. Think about these things.

View the world in those, those, that lens and steer clear of demons. Yeah. I'd say my closing remark.

Yeah. Let's end. Whatever you guys got.

It seems like at least what I've run into with folks in my past or just the general perception that people do these harder plant medicines to seek, to seek a spiritual experience. They're, they're seeking after something, but God has given us like the greatest fulfillment of what that is. And you know, with the Christian life, it's, it's difficult day to day to really see that, but, you know, in God's word and think first Corinthians two nine, what now I see nor ear heard what son of man is prepared, what God has prepared for those who love him.

And so we have like this greatness coming, this glory that is going to be too great to behold. And it says, and again, the second Corinthians, um, you know, he, he's transforming us in one degree of glory to the next. Yeah.

And it's, and it's still veiled and that's, that's a big part of how we walk in faith. Like we understand this, this greatness of what essentially God has instilled in our hearts to seek after, but we seek it again through Christ, you know, he, Christ is the bread of life. Feast on him, not from the table of demons, not from their, not from their medicines, not from their plants, not from their, not from their food, but on Christ.

Yeah. Yes. Amen.

No, any last thought. Satan can portray himself as an angel of light. That's good.

Demons do that too. Yes. Yeah.

I mean, just gotta be aware and need to know God's word, need to know his law. Um, yeah. And as long as we seek to honor God in Christ, then it will go with us.

Keep us, keep his commandments. Amen. Awesome.

Well, thank you guys for doing this with me. I think it's important just to comment on things that are happening in society. Christians need to be on the cutting edge.

Um, so check out, uh, the stuff Carter sent me, I'm going to put that in the show notes, check out those, uh, those testimonies. There's tons of stuff like that. Be encouraged by those when Christians proclaim what God's done in their life, even with, with demon demon setting them free from demons.

Check out that YouTube video, check out a few of the Aaron Rogers articles I'm going to put in there. Thanks so much for listening guys to the king of the ages of mortal invisible, the only God be honoring the glory forever and ever. Amen.

Solely. Deo. Glory.

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