Election Next Steps... WISDOM NEEDED!

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Election Next Steps... WISDOM NEEDED!

November 29, 2024

With the recent election Christians need to really think about how to make the best use of our time and to fight the right battles moving forward. We hope we gave you a few thoughts to do so rightly. Thanks for listening!

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Hello, For The King listeners. I am not your host, Rocky Ramsey. My name is Will Drzymskiy, a brother in Christ and friend of Rocky's, whom he has generously invited onto the show in order to verbally showcase my artwork to you in 50 seconds.

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Once again, that's ReflectedWorks.com, all one word, and I'm looking forward to helping you further the kingdom of God right now here on this earth by putting some of your free wall space to productive use. Thank you very much for your kind attention, and now enjoy the show. Welcome, friends, to the For The King podcast, where we proclaim the edicts of the king, namely and chiefly, that Yahweh, reigns.

Welcome to another edition and installment of the For The King podcast, and I am not flying solo today. My co-pilots are two silly, silly boys, real silly. Hey, we got cart.

How you doing? I am well, we got Noah. How you doing? I've never been better. Hey, these guys are good.

They've been on before. We're actually, we went hunting this morning. We're in the afternoon.

We're going to go back out here in a little bit. So that's kind of what we're doing figure. Hey, let's just sneak a pot in here.

Might as well. I'm always asking, hey, you guys want to film a podcast real quick so we can actually have a good conversation for once. So here we are preparing and about to enter into a really engaging and great discussion.

Good attitude. That's a good attitude. I'm here for a good discussion.

I don't know what you guys are here for, but hey, you're here. I'm just here to listen to you guys talk about stuff you want. And then you're going to get interested.

You're going to think you got a good point to make. Hey, let me try them in. We all, we know how this is going to go.

Yes, that's your, your, we know. By the way, we did not kill a deer this morning for any of you wondering. We're hopeful.

We're hopeful for tonight. Just out of us as inept hunters. I know.

We're just, we're not doing it right. But maybe this evening. Okay.

So what will we be discussing on this, this podcast? I figured it'd be what I've been wanting to talk about for some time. It's just the very interesting national events that have ensued post election. Yeah.

Okay. Well, the first one that comes to mind that I want to discuss is the election in general. What are your guys's as Christians? Like, so all three of us are conservative, reformed Christians.

Okay. Sound accurate. So there's obviously the big Eva kind of pietistic, effeminate Christianity, you know, even evangelicalism at large.

We're not coming from that perspective. So do you guys feel any need to, are you happy that Trump won? And if so, why? And do you feel any need to qualify that? Or can you just blanket statement, say, I'm happy he won. It's a good thing.

And with no qualifiers, do you even need to qualify? Yeah, definitely happy. I think the alternative was pretty bleak. At the very least, it goes to show that people are still willing to fight for the country to some degree.

I mean, Trump is, the whole political theater is becoming increasingly polarized. I mean, ever since Trump ran for president the first time, the liberal far left has absolutely hated his guts. And some of them have now apparently tried to kill him.

So at the very least, I'm happy that somebody is in the White House, hopefully will be, who will actually punish the liberal left because they are like children that are misbehaving badly and need discipline. That unworld the amount of spanking. Bend over and get a good, Trump's man for the job.

Yes, orange man. Orange man is going to be delivering the spanks. Yeah, I think when you look at kind of the potential outcomes, it's, you know, good by any means.

And I think this, I don't know, this is pretty much what I expected just seeing kind of the state of the country and just like the attitude of people's hearts over the past several years. I don't know, it's kind of the hands come home to roost like we've seen just some of the policies of the left and kind of how bad they are and just like the complete irregard for the American people in a lot of ways. And so I think people are really tired of it.

So I think we did see a very strong showing for Trump and, you know, I talked with Christians. Oh, you know, he's not godly man. So I'm not voting for him.

And I think I and, you know, they are fair, certainly to have that opinion. But and, you know, I acknowledge that as well. He's by all standards.

He's not a godly man, but God can draw a straight line with a crooked stick. And he does have a lot of character flaws. And yeah, he is very polarizing.

But I think like in the context of what the political atmosphere is, I think he is kind of the tool that God is using in this time right now, like, you know, if it were me and I got my ear shot off like, man, I'd be terrified. But yeah, just see how that kind of for him and emboldened him in a lot of ways. So I, yeah, certainly there are some caveats about, okay, this is in luck, you know, luckily, it's only for four years, and we were not electing a king.

And I think I think that that is like what the media portrays. Oh, like, everything is, it goes back to the thanks Obama meme, like, oh, thanks Obama, no matter what happens. And I think that's miss based because a lot of what our day to day, like, yes, it does affect us, particularly the economy is something I've heard that a lot of people are voting on.

And there are a lot of moral issues like with abortion and Trump's kind of backpedaled on abortion. So I don't really I'm not too jazzed about that. Yeah.

But yeah, I think that politics at a local level have way more impact on people. And so that that's we shouldn't just like, yes, there is a desire for to have like a strong ruler who will fix everything. And that's what Christ is, like Christ always fulfill that.

But like, we need to understand that each like individual section, it's all kind of decentralized, or the increase of the increase of his government, there will be no end. So like, it's happening. But it happens in different aspects, both at a high level with the presidency, and then at a low level with, you know, your county city governments.

So it's, I think it's good. I think it's good for the country overall. And a lot of the evil is from perpetuated on the American people is going to be brought to fruition and like, you know, be there's going to be some recompense, which is good.

You know, when there's when there's justice, like the evil flee, but the wicked rejoice. So it's, I think that's good. Yeah.

Nice. Yeah, I like your point about we need to always have before us that localism is where you can, like the president's really not going to impact your family that much, you know, it's going to really impact your family, whether you come home joyful after work and ready to play with your kids and hang out with your wife, that actually is going to impact your family a lot, not necessarily the president, you know. So I think that's always important.

The localism, local politics is way more important, but we do have a federal government, you know, and the, just like it's important to have an elder that's actually qualified because the people will be conformed to the image of the elder. Like Paul says, follow me as I cry. So Paul was obviously discipling churches into, you know, how he was as a man, a saint.

It's the same thing at the national level. They are public servants that are supposed to be representative and like the face of who the nation is. So I agree with you guys.

It's important that we have not a feminine man or a, you know, a liberal whack job that's in office because that is going to disciple the people into that. I think Trump has a lot of like common grace, general virtue that would be like, like Plato and Aristotle talked about virtue. I think Trump has a lot of courage and strength.

He has a lot of virtues that are there. So I want to recognize the virtues in him being made in the image of God that he is as a man, very strong. He doesn't mince words and he shoots straight.

And I think that's good. I like that. We need way more of that.

Now, you did call out some things that we think he's deficient in as a Christian. So I think we can critique that. But overall, I think if the nation is going to be discipled by him as pretty much the face of the United States, the president does have that kind of like aura or gravitas to the position.

Even though like you said, it's not a king, you know, he's definitely, he's not a king, but he is the president, the head of the executive branch. I mean, with the powers of executive order now, yeah, it's almost like he is a king with the things that are completely unconstitutional that presidents can do. But regardless, there's still somewhat of a division of a feigned division of powers.

Even if it practically doesn't work, it really doesn't do anything. But he does have some virtue that I think is better than the alternative. So for that, I rejoice.

But then Christians can also, I think, qualify and critique. I would, depending on who I'm talking to, I would qualify the things that I am excited about in Trump presidency and things that he's not a godly man in that we need to perform. Okay, so then let's, now I want to change the, unless anybody has a final thought and just like Trump himself.

Yeah, he's not the most moral man. He's not, seems like he's not Christian, but he does have a lot of virtues and he's a strong leader. He is sympathetic to Christians like in the same way.

That's where I wanted to move the discussion. Yeah, I wanted to discuss some of the things that I am happy about the effects of his presidency. So I do view him like an Nebuchadnezzar or Cyrus kind of like letting us build the wall.

I do view him as a, or was it Darius, I'm sorry, that sent that with Ezra and Nehemiah to build the wall. Is it Cyrus? Okay. One of those, I forget which, yeah, which ruler it was exactly, but Cyrus.

So I definitely do view him in that respect where he is going to allow Christians to build and to prosper. So I want to bring up a few public, a few public statements he's already said, and then also some of his appointees, and we can discuss those. So he has made two public statements and I can try to find the videos and put it in the show notes, but he had one where he and some gentleman, some Christian guy got together to make a Bible.

They put in this Bible, the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. So it's supposed to be a Bible for the average American for them to know what powers are entrusted to the federal government, the Constitution, and kind of the history of our nation, you know, which would be the Declaration of Independence. You could get a signed copy by Donald Trump for a thousand dollars.

I don't think that's true. Is it? Yeah. Interesting.

Is it really? Yeah. Okay, that's crazy. The regular ones, $60.

That's funny. So there's this Bible that they're not putting out and in his public declaration of him in this project of making a Bible, he makes some very explicit statements like we need God and Christianity back in the country. This has been a mistake that we've gone away from this.

That's very good. Okay, that's, that's very good. So back to the discussion of the point about like, he's going to disciple the nation into something.

Well, he's obviously saying it's good to be a Christian and whether or not he's an actual born again Christian himself, regardless of that discussion, that public statement is important and carries weight. And then the second thing is he had a public statement about the public school system and how it's terrible. And he basically wants to enable homeschoolers and private Christian schools, more freedom and more ability to spread their influence.

That's very, very good because education is very important. A lot of Christians homeschool their kids and they don't want to send their kids to Caesar to become a Roman. They're not going to be like, why would I as a Christian send my kid to public school to become transgender and learn to hate America and to hate themselves and all that? Why would I teach them? So a lot of Christians desire education in a different setting than a public.

So Trump has been critical of public education and thinks that there's a lot of major issues. So those two statements alone, I think, are that kind of Cyrus like figure that's going to allow Christians to build and to prosper and to flourish. I think that's going to be a great outflowing of kind of what he wants to see the country move towards.

Any thoughts there on those public statements? No. I do think it's a really big deal to see a president in the manufacturing of Bible and then making a public statement that he wants people to read this and wants them to be Christian. That's pretty crazy.

It's huge in school. Well, and it wasn't just the Old Testament. He's explicitly talking about Christianity.

It's not just theism in general. Right. So I think that that's I mean, that's huge.

I mean, that's amazing to see a president do something like that. That's good. It's just a common blessing and a grace that.

Yeah. Yeah. It does get me excited.

It's awesome. It's it's giving me some hope. Yeah, me too.

An optimistic outlook. But yeah, again, just can't can't just be content and OK, like we're good. We still need to continue to reform and really if change is going to happen in our nation, it's going to change in the hearts of the people.

Yeah, you can have a president make millions of bibles of Bible for each person in the nation. But unless they read and take to heart with what the scriptures say, it's not going to actually do anything. Yeah.

Yes, we want to pray for reformation and revival big time. And for our churches to exactly acknowledge that. And I think it's just like it's it's it's a telling contrast between OK, this is what this administration seems to be geared toward, like pro Christianity.

But then the previous administration, like they are pro religion, but it's not for Christianity. It's for like, yes, for secularism, for LGBTQI agenda, the cult and for the sacrament of abortion. That's like that's like where they're that's like the hill they're picking to die on.

And I mean, you know, they'll die on the hill because that's everything to watch out. The church is coming. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, I mean, Trump at the before he was elected, there's the pretty famous where Kamala's rally. Somebody said Christ's King. She said you're at the wrong rally.

And then Trump's rally, they started chanting Christ is King. You're at the right. I mean, that alone.

And then I saw a video of after he was elected, a bunch of the people that were on his team were singing a hymn. Great is great is thy faithfulness. These are really, really big momentum.

Momentum gathering type events for Christianity. And so I think you bring a good point, Carter, that like the temptation is going to be to not press the attack, to grow slothful, to think that we're safe for a little bit or whatever. We're good when really like you don't win a war by winning one skirmish and then going back to your country and demilitarizing and, you know, taking, you know, going back to sleep for a little bit.

The Christians need to like this is going to be a completely fruitless, worthless four years if Christians don't press the attack and continue going with that momentum for four years, continue building. And all the stuff that all the stuff that's happened to push Christianity into the limelight, to force them to have to say Christ is King at a Kamala rally, to see where she's at. And then for somebody else at a Trump rally to say Christ is King, for that to even be in public rhetoric now where that's like a test, a litmus test on the person that's speaking right now.

That's a test to see where they're at. The fact that we're at that position now in our country where people are saying that publicly is huge. I mean, Christians need to keep that momentum going.

Like everything that's been working, all the things that Doug Wilson and, you know, Joel Webb and Brian Solveir, Eric Kahn, all the dudes that we listen to, all those guys, Stephen Wolf, everything that has been working, they've been punching way above their weight class. And we have to continue supporting people that are being effective for the kingdom and de-incentivize a week of feminine Christianity. I mean, Albert Mohler has been putting in a lot of work too.

I think people don't realize that Albert Mohler has been doing a ton. So those people that are putting in work, we have to continue to back them. And everything they've been doing, we need to do at a micro scale in our communities that have been working.

So the things that are working continue doing. Don't fall asleep for four years and get comfortable. I think that's kind of one of my big tickles.

So what does that look like for Christians to be faithful in this? In the next four years, that could potentially, like, if there is a new administration that comes in, could halt a lot of that. Like, how do we practically day-to-day and then also make that some of the bigger picture between year to year do that? Well, I think it's literally looking at the CREC's success. Pete Hegseth, the new Secretary of Defense, is a member of the CREC Church.

So the CREC is a very small denomination and we now have somebody at one of the highest points of our society, one of a member of a CREC Church in a position like that. I mean, that's huge. So why was he attracted to the CREC? Because the CREC isn't gay and he's a masculine man.

So he wanted to be in a Christianity that's not effeminate and isn't weak. He wanted to be with the people that are winning. So I think practically it's all the stuff that they do, where it's family worship, get married and have a lot of kids, a robust high church liturgical worship, patriarchy, believing in patriarchy and practicing it, and have as men actually excelling at your job to not view just because a guy is gifted that he has to be a pastor.

But there's a ton of people in the CREC that are extremely gifted men that are not pastors, a bunch of them. Like, the members of the churches are actually very effective for the kingdom in their spheres. So I think cultivating all those things and the wives, not being a feminist, but the wives just submitting to their husbands and then working alongside their husbands, that's the kind of culture that's created in our circles.

That's what's working. That's what people are drawn to. So I think practically it's just doing those things, singing songs, learning how to sing, having a robust family culture and doing family worship and then inviting people through hospitality into that.

Press that. Yeah, I think demonstrating that, it is like in what I've seen, I'm like, whoa, this is different. It feels right, where it was almost like a missing X factor growing up in a big evangelical church.

And I think we need to have a lot of grace toward our brothers and sisters who are still in that big evangelical context and show them lovingly by example and just by telling them and teaching them really what it's all about. Yeah, I think it's really important to, one of the practical things is just how has public discourse, the question of Christian nationalism, got to the point where it is, where it was getting this in people's minds and was in public discourse. Because they talked about it all the time.

And Doug in the series, he guys, all these dudes are, William Wolf was one of them. He talks a lot about Christian nationalism and Joel Webb in an air con, all these dudes like Stephen Wolf, you know, they are they're punching way above their weight class because they are continuing to force people to actually reckon with a true, robust political theory, a Christian political theory. Something to note on that is that we should recognize that the way that they're actually doing this is through social media.

They're not using the main mediums of the news or whatever the heck I'm saying. Help. Yeah, I'm not sure what I was trying to say.

They're using the internet. They're using something that is readily available to absolutely everybody. They're taking advantage of the level playing field.

And just the fact that they are, they do have such a large following they have to be dealt with. And it just goes to show the system is kind of fraying at the seams and falling apart. Yeah, that's a good point.

I think it's important to be aware of our position in history. You know, Jesus condemns the Pharisees saying, you know, you can look at the sky and tell what the weather's going to be, but you can't tell the signs of the times, like literally the Messiah is here and you're missing me, right? So I think there is some wisdom and understanding like where we've come from and seeing big picture, like the cycles throughout history and seeing kind of where we're going. It is a good opportunistic chance.

And like kind of like what you're saying, we're seeing this transition away from mainstream centralized media control, but they've had control for the past, you know, 40, 50, 60, you know, however long as long as that media was trusted. And I think really in this election, it highlighted that like these people are seeking after decentralized media, at least with our generations as we come up. Like there certainly are some other people that are probably watching the mainstream just because that's what they grew up with.

So they are entrenched in their ways. So it's interesting to see that and just like recognize that we have an opportunity to go back to a more decentralized way of living in a localism. And I think people, I've recognized that and people I talk to are recognizing that.

But then there's also, I mean, a lot of people aren't aware and they're just so buying into the main broad road, I guess. But Jesus says narrow is the way that is the least of salvation and fewer of those who enter it. But it takes a small minority to be strong and to stand up for what's right for people to really take courage and acknowledge what's going on.

There's a video of like, it's like some dude is like at some, I don't know, festival or something, some concert. This dude's dancing, just going all crazy, doesn't care. One other guy joins him and then slowly, like people start to trickle in.

And then it's like if you're not dancing all crazy, like you're the weird one, right? So it's like this. It just, we need to be those brave few that step out, lead it, demonstrate it. Because Christ is, Christ is doing it.

We're just following him and his steps. So like, I think if we follow his example well, then people will acknowledge the wisdom in that and follow it. Going off of that and then tying back in what Rocky is saying, there are people that are already casting a vision and we should be willing to back them.

Exactly. It's like if we each have our own unique visions about what the new Christendom is going to look like or how we're going to do our own part. We're obviously, we should be doing what we can within the influence that God has given us, loving our neighbors and doing those, controlling what we can control basically.

But we do need to back those people that God has put in those positions of power. Social capital is very, very important. And most of the big evangelicalism doesn't understand the elitist usefulness and institutional usefulness.

So back to the whole, you guys were talking about media. One of you, I think it was you Carter, about decentralized media and these different avenues now people are taking. The Canon Plus and the CRC, they created a parallel media outlet.

And then there's obviously podcasting and books and all that, which is a decentralized way of getting information out. So I think that that was, that's a strategic move and it's a smart move. And it's, it was good.

It was a good move because you can reach people that are free thinking in that way because it's just widely available and anybody can access it. And especially for us three right here, we're all under 30 for you that are listening. We're all just to rub it in.

We're all young men to rub it in. But well, yeah, I mean, we're not super wise by any means. But as young men and speaking from our perspective, that I would never ever turn on Fox News and like watch it.

Right. Our generation are either they're going to one of three places. Well, I mean, yeah, they go to YouTube and stuff like we have platforms, but I'm thinking about like young men like us that are trending conservative, which is a lot of young men.

Because we're sick of being told we suck and that we're just supposed to be gay, effeminate. And being a white man is like the worst thing you could commit. Yeah, it's like nobody, nobody wants that anymore.

That's stupid. So they're either going to Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan, or they're going to Christianity. And then within Christianity, they're selecting Eastern Orthodox Catholicism or some high church Christianity.

And then you see the big Eva, big mega churches are not gaining new numbers of young men. Aaron Wren just put out some stats recently where for the first time in American history, there are more men going to church than women, which is very, very interesting. So what I think is important about that data point, there's going to be a lot of opportunities to hold the center.

We have people saying at these rallies, Christ is King. And we have a lot of podcast and media that's being put out. So we, to your point, no, we got to continue to support the people that are good, that we should support and let the chaotic neutrals like Joe Rogan or Jordan Peterson kind of just like do their thing.

But they're basically gateway drugs to get people into thinking like either in a libertarian way or in a conservative way. And both are better than the liberal socialist, communistic wackos. Libertarianism can be bad.

I'm not saying libertarian is good. It's bad. But I would rather live in that society than I would in a, where liberalism and communism and socialism is being forced on you.

Or bad laws. Yeah, bad laws are just because libertarianism is a very small government, which there's a lot of things I would like there, but they're basically a gateway drug into the whole like go to the gym. I like the UFC.

I think it's good to fight. I think it's going to take care of your body to take care of your health and biohack and become a jock. But then in the manosphere, you have these fags that are talking about like, you know, just it's very hedonistic and Nietzschean where it's like just have sex with as much women as you can give into the greed, you know, try to make as much money as possible.

So that's the ditch on that side. And I think the CREC is going to be poised to attract a lot of these dudes that understand like I don't want to be a fag. But then at the same time, I also don't want to just like give into all my vice and become the greediest, lustiest D bag in the world and just, you know, get all voided up and become 250 pound monster.

You know, think I own the place or whatever when really that's not a sign of masculinity. If you can't even pass on your jeans and have kids because you got a vasectomy so you can have sex with as many women as possible. That's the most effeminate thing you can do.

Well, the most effeminate thing you can do is become a woman by getting bonus. But you can't even, it is effeminate to not be able to be potent. You know what I mean? Right.

Impetitive. Which is that this is the impetus, you know. Spending yourself on everything.

Yeah. You're going to be a completely weak. Yeah.

And you want to spend yourself on something worthwhile. And that's it. You have no heritage, no legacy.

I mean, we've kind of lost that. We don't really have an ownership culture anymore. Exactly.

But I mean, if you don't have kids to pass on your heritage. Yeah. It's shameful.

Alright. And that is a big benefit of people like Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson, is it? They at least open specifically young men's eyes to see the world in a different way. Show them it's more than what it seems to be.

But then the problem comes from the fact that they don't offer, they don't offer answers to the deeper questions of life, which Christianity is. Yeah. A totalizing cosmology or worldview.

Right. They're not going to offer that. Yeah, because it can't.

Well, and I think another point back to the health thing, it literally is a spell that's being cast on society. And this is why I transitioned to the end of the conversation. I want to start bringing up a few specific appointees to different parts of the administration that Trump's talking about, okay? His cabinet or whatever.

So, RFK Jr. is, you know, the Secretary of Health and Health and something, HHS. Health and Human Services. Health and Human something.

Human Services. Human Services. Okay, so that's good.

That's very good. We've been on this health train for like six, seven years at this point. So we've already, I mean, this is all old, this is old stuff for us.

But we're veterans. We're veterans. We've been thinking this way for a long, long time and all of our health, our health are very good.

We all have very good health and we're very fit. Very vigorous. Very vigorous.

And we're good. But a lot of people aren't. And the men that are attracted to the Joe Rogan type, where Joe Rogan is talking about cold thermogenesis and, you know, he's having people on that are giving a different perspective on health.

Yeah. Obviously, yeah. We would like Jack Cruz alive.

Want to fall into more kind of what he talked about. He consulted with the El Salvadorian government on their policies and they like rewrote their constitution. He's going to buy it.

Well, and. R.F.K. Jr. did a podcast with Jack Cruz and he's aware of him. And I could see Jack Cruz being consulted to help reform whatever R.F.K. Jr. is going to do.

I would think he'd be consulted. But Trump's a straight shooter. Jack Cruz is probably like.

Oh, yeah. Jack Cruz is crazy. Yeah.

He's wild. Now, this guy's not a Christian, but he's got very good perspective on health that we like. And R.F.K. Jr. is pretty solid, too.

And a lot of Christians need to get on this this train because we don't reject the body where we're not Gnostics. So when you are extremely overweight, your hormones are all whack and you're drinking fluoride and there's all sorts of crazy stuff in our food system. It's going to make you not as potent as a man.

And when you're a feminine fat, you're more prone to be a lib because you're lazy. And also it provides like low dopamine. Also provide like, oh, it's OK to be fat like this bossy body positivity that's like, no, it's fine.

Yeah. And you should like be accepted just as you are. It's like, yeah.

Well, OK. Your heart is working like three times as hard and you're going to die early. But yeah, exactly.

Let's not look at that. Let's just look. Oh, you know, yeah.

It's so it's deceptive. Yeah. So when men get exposed, I think to the Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson kind of ethos, they're going to start taking care of their body and they're going to trend.

There's been a lot of articles about why your average gym, bro, is a conservative because when you work out and you actually understand that like meritocracy is a real thing. Like if you want to if you want to be able to bench press 250 pounds, you have to put in work. It's a meritocracy in the gym.

So it should be a meritocracy outside, but rather the libs want to just, you know, you can hire. You got to hire your diversity code and all that. So that's why Jim Bros trend that way.

But what they don't have is they have like the natural law kind of the gut like, oh, it's just I know I shouldn't be gay. And I know I shouldn't do this. The common grace kind of natural law stuff.

But what they don't have is the gospel. So there's just going to be a lot of opportunities for that. And I'm really excited for RFK Junior to start reforming the health care system, allowing more access to raw milk and, you know, get rid of germ theory.

And, you know, really challenge the efficacy of vaccines. And, you know, that's going to be very, very good, I think, for opening up opportunities to share the gospel to people that are kind of prepped for it. Like a liberal worldview doesn't really prep anybody for the gospel.

It's hostile to the gospel. But the Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan types is preparatory for the gospel, I would say, because they're actually tapping into true things, just like Plato and Aristotle were tapping into a lot of true things. And the world was being prepped for Christ to come on the scene because Plato and Aristotle were right before Christ came.

And then the Roman Empire that took the Hellenistic thought on, they were ready to receive Christ. And I would put Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan as like a preparatory kind of thought process for the gospel to be very effective with those men. But then you have the James Lindsay kind of Bronze Age pervert kind of, you know, atheist conservatives that are just they're more Nietzschean where it's like, Mike makes right.

So that that's obviously very, very wrong. But I think those people are going to be an interesting ministry that I think everybody needs to be aware of, because the less fat people are, the less libs are going to be a thing. I mean, you just go to a LGBTQ rally or an abortion rally and they're just all like massive people.

Like they're very overweight, they're very unhealthy, they look disgusting. Yeah. So I don't know.

I just kind of ran to there a little bit. Do you guys agree with that analysis? What do you think about that, I guess? RFK Junior, the health stuff changing with Trump. Like I said earlier, it only takes a small percentage of the population to really give people enough courage to stand up with them.

But we are still going to see those staunchly liberal, you know, zealot type people that are still pushing against that. And I think a lot of the mainstream media and still a lot of the same players are going to push back against this kind of new regime, I guess, and then against the new administration and a lot of this that is that is brought out. So I think we do need to be ready for that and still acknowledge like to not cast our pearls before swine and to pick our pick our battles wisely.

At least be ready for it, acknowledge it because it's like it's just because Trump doesn't mean everybody's back to exactly back to Christianity. Exactly. Again, reform reformations needed.

But if we do have it's better to live in a Christian society as a non-Christian than it is to live in a non-Christian society as a Christian. So there is going to be a lot of common grace that is brought into the public sphere through just the righteousness of the laws. And we, you know, we can pray and we still need to hold Trump to like a scrutiny side.

But I think that we are going to go in the right direction and we need to continue to do that and to do what we can at our individual level, at our family level, in our community and church level. And if God's given that to us at our local governmental level. Yeah.

Okay. Well, the last final thing here and then we'll be done. We talked about R.F.K. Jr. I want to bring up also Joel Salatin and he is a permaculture Christian guy.

You can meet Carter and Noah or have a side project called Heritage Permaculture. It's also on Substack if you guys want to check that out. And I just wrote an article about how I'm pretty bullish on permaculture because we now have one of six of the advisory board to the United States Department of Agriculture is now a conservative Christian named Joel Salatin.

And he's I really like his stuff. He's a great brother in Christ and has a really good understanding of agriculture. So I think this would be connected to the whole health situation because agriculture is connected to human health.

But I think we're going to see a lot of reform in agriculture as well. Hopefully getting rid of pesticides and herbicides and different farming methods. So I think that's really good.

And then I brought up Pete Hegseth earlier, but he's a C.R.A.C. member that's now the Secretary of Defense. And that's pretty crazy. And he has some really cool statements on a podcast I watched where he doesn't think women should be in combat, which is great.

That's a very biblical. That's literally in the Bible that women should not be in combat. They shouldn't be in police officers or firefighters or anything like that.

That's literally in the scriptures. And he also has some some good stuff about like we need to completely upend all of the liberalization of our military where you have transgender people and gay people. It's like a trainee admiral.

Yeah, exactly. It's just embarrassing. He was in front of the other nation.

Yeah, it looks silly. So I think that that's great. So this dude's got a Deus vault tattoo underneath his bicep.

So he's a very he listens to the King's Hall podcast. He knows Eric Kahn. He knows a lot of these people that we like because he's in the C.R.A.C. So I saw him on I think it's the Sean Ryan podcast talking about we need to get your kids out of the public school.

We need to have classical Christian schools. He brought up brought up classical conversations verbatim, which is a really popular classical Christian home school option. So he's publicly saying things that are really, really awesome.

And then the other guy is Matt Gaetz. I saw him. He's pretty controversial.

He's not a Christian or anything. But he said he made a public statement that he like any woman that goes to I think either an abortion rally or an abortion clinic is like fat and ugly or whatever. And the interviewer was like asking him, you know, did you say this? He said, yeah.

And she was like, well, what do you what do you say to people that are offended by that? He was like, be offended. Like I'm not going to work. Yeah.

I mean, just like a look at him. I'm not going to. I'm not going to take back what I said.

Am I wrong? Be offended. Yeah. Not everything.

Not everything you say in the in your life has to be not offensive. There are times where you say something that will necessarily be offensive. And that's perfectly fine.

Jesus was not always not offensive. Jesus was offensive very often. So the goal is not to not be offensive.

That's not the goal of a man. That's not the goal of speech. The goal of speech is not to be not offensive.

That's freedom of speech is you are by nature going to say something that somebody doesn't like. Therefore, let's duke it out and talk about it. So I thought it was good to see people saying stuff like that in high positions of power.

So we got some really interesting appointees. The borders are going to be interesting starting to deport people. And he was asked a question like, like, hey, how are you going to keep this from separating families when you start to deport people? And he was like, well, if you if somebody does something illegal and I go arrest them or I'm necessarily going to separate them from their family.

And then Alexander, whatever that cause of Cortez or whatever, she was like, she said something like, well, they haven't committed a crime. He's like, well, section, blah, blah, blah, statute, whatever. The United States code says you can't come in here illegally.

She's like, well, I forget what she said to that. But he basically ended up saying, like, how do we keep from not separating families? He's like, you just deport the whole family like they should all they all go. So I think that's a good thing that people should come in legally and ancient Israel.

They had to become a Israelite to become into the nation. I think that's how it should be in America. You should come in and be an American.

And if you're not, then you have to leave. I would go further and say, like, you should be a Christian. I think I mean, there's probably things we can do to improve the efficiency of naturalizing people.

Yeah. Well, and we need to do a better job at sorting out. Hey, is this person going to like be able to contribute to our culture? We're not a charity.

Like, yeah, like the church does have like charitable charges that we do have to like look out for those who are impoverished. The child or the father list in the window. But again, we're just as a country, like we need to acknowledge like the importance of nationalism that we need to put our people first.

And I think with what we've seen having sanctuary cities. And that was the whole thing with with Trump saying they're eating the dog. Like, I think from Haiti, they were like putting them all on the Springfield and they were literally taking people's pets and eating them.

Yeah. So it's like that's that's the reality on the ground. Like people are having their dogs and cats stolen by foreigners and being on and the foreigners are not like doing anything to like extend.

Yeah, the olive branch. So I think that that with that is the reality on the ground. Like it's it is kind of hypocritical, hypocritical, hypocritical.

Thank you to to act like an administrative level just to let people best come in. I don't know. They have stuff like the great replacement theory.

And there's there's some aspect to that. Like repopulation is down globally. And you can just have a box about this.

So it's like it is. It is very complex. But again, back.

What's what's the plan? Multigenerational faithfulness. Just have a big family and follow Christ. Like that's exactly like that's the game plan.

Yeah. Amen. I mean, all these other communities are coming in here.

They naturally are like you. You lived in that apartment complex. It's a bunch of Hispanic people.

And they're not interested in learning English and becoming American. They're being Hispanic or being their culture in a foreign culture in this place. And they're just here to take advantage of the prosperity of the wealth.

You know, so it's like if somebody is going to do that, why would you? Because there's opportunity. Yeah. And I mean, I don't know them for doing that.

But they're not they're not necessarily doing. I don't think it's wrong if they're doing that. I'm just saying it shouldn't be.

It should happen in the first place because you shouldn't let somebody in the country that's not interested in actually becoming American. It's hard work for sure. I mean, just like you're not forced to have to adopt an orphan into my family.

I do not have to adopt an orphan. I don't have to. I can do it out of the good grace of my heart.

But you don't have to. Same thing with letting in immigrants. You don't have to.

You literally don't. You can. It is difficult to acknowledge because we do have such a such a blessing.

And I mean, it is communist to say, oh, you know, what we have should be shared with the whole world. Like there's a reason why, like God blessed our nation. And there's a reason why it's like being cursed now.

So exactly. Any final thoughts, Melon? You want to say anything a little bit? Yeah, I think it's like offensive to think that you ought to actually love the people that are nearby you. And I've seen so much crap about like trying to swing too far the other way on the pendulum regarding racism.

And like I mean, there is a big attack against white people nowadays. Trying to swing too far and say like we should just ignore race altogether. Right.

That's racist. And you ignore like the cultural boundaries. Right.

Like ethnicity actually is a thing. And if you don't share an ethnicity, which doesn't necessarily relate to skin color all the time. Right.

Yeah. But we need to shift away from the lens of race and towards sharing a common language, a common culture, a common religion. Because there's more that can bind people together than race and even merely the gospel.

Yeah, exactly. That does bind people together so you can love them. But also literally being of the same people and of the same ethnicity.

And I guess on that topic of the great replacement and letting immigrants in. Like if you destroy that, you just you weaken the people at large and you make it more difficult to love your neighbor because you might not actually speak the same language as them. Yeah.

And you make it more difficult to fulfill the dominion mandate. Exactly. Yeah.

And you become weaker to the attacks from the enemy. So Lord willing, Trump will be a force that the Lord uses to rectify a lot of the damage that's been done. The borders are has said that he's going to try to run the biggest deportation operation in history, which will be wonderful.

Hopefully I don't get deported. But it does seem like a lot of the guys that Trump has appointed are. They have some good ideas.

Even if Trump himself isn't the best, he's surrounding himself with people that are decent. We didn't even talk about the Department of Government Efficiency, though. You don't even have to.

Yeah, I think it's another good example of like, I mean, they're going to get stuff done. I think the deportation thing, like my official stance, I guess, of the Puerto Rican podcast is like, yeah, that's good. Like if it is not good for me.

Let's say I adopted in my family a 13 year old that is a complete heathen. Nothing like our family has already been shaped and formed is not willing to change to be a part of my household. And it's just influences my kids for the worst.

Brings things into the household that's terrible for my children. That's what we're doing by letting in immigrants. So not every single one of them.

I mean, there are some people that like seek to come here that are Christians and solid people. So it's like, I'm fine with that. Yeah, immigration isn't necessarily bad.

But like you said, Noah, like there's there's more than just the gospel that binds people together. I have more in common with you two than I do with an Asian Christian that's underground in China. Like it'd be awkward to, you know, they're still my brother in Christ.

I love them and I would worship with them. But it's going to be awkward to try to like connect with them. But I can connect with you guys because you guys are look like me and act like me and are from the same place.

We grew up together. Yeah, we're just this culture is the same. Our jokes are similar.

Like I'm not going to connect very well with a Christian that has different natural differences. But I still have to love your own people. Yeah, that's perfectly fine.

Just like it's good to love your own family. So okay, I guess we could just wrap up there overall. Very good that Trump won.

We're very happy for it. And there's a lot of reform that has to happen. I think big takeaway is we got to press the press the attack.

Keep the momentum going and press Christ to the center of American social and civic life. Force that conversation. Continue to talk about Christian nationalism and the, you know, Christian political theory that Christians have always had.

Literally just go read the Protestant reformers, the magister of Protestant reformers and just believe what they believe because it's it is Christian nationalism. Go believe. Go read John Adams or George Washington on public civic life and it's Christian nationalism.

They wanted a Christian state. They would not let Christians, they would not let anybody but Christians hold public office. They would not let people immigrate to the colonies if they weren't Christians.

It was all about being Christian. Ethnicity is important. Being Christian is important.

So that would be, I guess, like our official stance and like just continue to press that conversation because that's the idol of the day is secularism and pluralism. So we got to continue to press against the kingdom of darkness. And how's it coming in, you know, through neglecting the full council of God's word, which includes every nation should be obedient to believe.

Let's go get a deer. All right. Thanks for listening to the podcast.

Thank you. Thank you.