What is the Good that God is Working For us?

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What is the Good that God is Working For us?

April 26, 2021

What does Romans 8:26-30 mean? More specifically what exactly does Romans 8:28 mean? These verses are often misapplied in present day American Christianity and Bryce and I break down what exactly this text is getting at. What is the good that God works together for those that are called according to his purpose and love him? Prosperity? Lack of hardship? An easy life?

Key text: Romans 8 : 26-30

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That would probably be a more accurate term. A puppet. That I can kind of just do what I please with, you know.

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No. Well everybody, welcome to the For The King podcast. Where Jesus is the king and we're not.

But we're just subjects. Vassals. The vassals? That's the medieval term.

Okay. What about vessels? With an E. Is there a difference there? Yes. No.

We'll have to look into that. Well maybe we'll do a podcast on vassals versus vessels at one point. (laughs) Well yeah, welcome to the For The King podcast if you're new.

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If you're new to the podcast, we're happy that you're here hearing about a Biblical worldview. And if you do not share that worldview with us, well hopefully you can just at least get a view into the psychology of Christians and how we think and how we use the word of God as our anchor for what we believe and what we know to be true. So hopefully you guys can benefit from that at least and maybe you can see just how honestly superior the word of God is to any other worldview.

Any other foundation for truth. Um. So welcome.

Enjoy this podcast. We are actually going to do another um. Uh.

Episode in the series that we started last week. I don't know. I'm titling at something like, "What does that text really mean?" Or, "What does it really mean?" What does the Bible mean here? So we're going to go through.

Last week we did a sermon on the Mount. Um. Was it Matthew chapter seven? Yep.

About judging your neighbor verses one through five I think in chapter seven. Um. And we kind of just talked about how Christians can kind of.

And even non-Christians can accuse Christians of judging because they say, "Doesn't your holy book say not to judge ever? You can't judge me." You know. Or you hear the phrase, "Only God can judge me." So we talked about that last week and kind of went through how to think about that accurately. So go check that out if you have not.

Um. I actually got some good feedback on that. People seem to have liked that.

So. Um. We're going to do another one real quick.

So this week we're going to be in Romans chapter eight. Talking about a text that some Christians also can misconstrue and use for their own purposes and interpret their own way. So we're going to hopefully be faithful to the text and interpret it properly and help us see exactly what is being said here.

And I actually did read Matthew Henry's commentary with this. Also some of this stuff is also you know this is historical Christianity. What has been this text has been interpreted as for a very long time.

And obviously Christians can I mean we could we misconstrue. Whoa. Sorry.

What is going on? I don't know. I can't burp. Also.

Yeah. For all the listeners out there this is a moment for you guys to get to know me a little better. I am physically incapable of burping.

I don't know. He's a part of a Facebook community called no burp. Yeah.

No burp at all. I can't do it. It's impossible for me sometimes I burp on accident but I've never actually willingly burped.

I'm always putting him over my shoulder and trying to burp. Yeah Bryce is. Yeah he'll pick me up and pat me a little bit.

I hear it. Actually give me give me one real quick. So yeah.

Can burp. So sometimes if you hear me if you hear me talking weird you can. You can just jump to that conclusion that I'm holding in a vicious burp.

Yeah. I'm not letting it I'm not letting it breathe. I'm suffocating it.

He holds on to that as much as he holds on to it. It's yeah it's a daily reminder that you got to let it go. Maybe I'll start like turning it into a spiritual thing whenever that happens I'll be like man.

Let it out. I just got to let my sin go. OK.

Let's get into the text. Enough games. Do you want to isolate that text to see how people just naturally like.

Yeah. Let's just say that verse out. Let's ice a jean it.

Yeah. Let's ice it. Let's so what a little bit of ice a Jesus will get you and then we'll show you what eggs a Jesus will get you.

OK. Here we go. Let's say I'm a super hip.

I got I got skinny jeans on. I have a sleeve of flames. I'm fully sleeve.

There's a little there's a couple on my neck where I'm getting a little edgy but I'm not quite there yet and I have a nose ring and I'm a super hip pastor and I get up in front of my young congregation that I'm two years older than ready to teach them how to be a man man of God. And I say this guys this is the whole story. This is the word of God.

We're going to be in a text today out of Romans chapter eight verse 28 and we know that for those who love God all things work together for good. And then maybe I spend the next 40 minutes talking about how God will never harm you. He will make sure your life is super easy.

He wants you to prosper. He wants you to prosper. And then I start speaking in tongues in the end.

And then everybody gets baptized in the Holy Spirit. Yeah. People are you know flipping around acting crazy.

You would think there's a loose squirrel. Yeah. I'll put yeah I'll put a funny song in there that kind of makes fun of charismatic people if you're charismatic out there.

We love you. You're you are Orthodox brothers and sisters in Christ hundred percent. We love you guys but we do share disagreements on the charismatic belief.

So sorry not that we don't want to make too fun of that. But also it's just fun banter. You guys can make fun of us for being reformed and whatever.

You can think that we we don't back as babies though. So don't we're not those kind of reform people. Don't even try that.

Yeah I was almost there. Bryce was almost a paid up Baptist and then I slapped it out of him with the word of God. Yeah.

Yeah. Have you not seen have you not heard. Yeah.

Me and my wife actually the way we compromised on that is as the babies in her womb. That's the baptism. We just settle on that.

Wow who came up with that. That is super weird. That's me.

There's no way she came up with that. Okay so that is the text for today. Now that's how you would I said you would just take that person say God's gonna work good.

He does love us and we know that for those who love God he's gonna work all things together for good for those that are calling according to his purpose. So that's what you could do with the text. We're gonna actually do the text justice and we're gonna show that we actually care about the full counsel of God.

So let's look around the text. Let's not just take one verse. If you're in your pew and you hear your pastor and going through a text and then just pick one verse then maybe look around it and see what the context is.

That's always very helpful for hermeneutics. So we're gonna read actually some verses prior and verses after. I'll start in 26 and I'll go to verse 30.

Likewise, so the likewise is connecting I thought from 18 to 25 talking about how the creation groans out waiting to be redeemed, waiting to obtain freedom of the glory of the children of God to be set free from its bondage under sin. So when Adam and Ephael we have to remember it's not just humanity that was plunged into darkness and a curse basically. It was also the creation was cursed in an odd way.

I don't know exactly what that looks like. I'm imagining disease, death, all sorts of things. Yeah, just like tornadoes, hurricanes, calamities.

Yeah, all that kind of stuff. Earthquakes. Yeah.

I didn't. Why are you getting so weird about the earthquakes? Just you know be quaking. Okay.

So that is what he's connected to the thought with. So then he says this, likewise, just like creation, we do this. The spirit helps us in our weakness for we do not know what we ought to pray for as we ought but the spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words.

And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the spirit because the spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God. And we know that for those who love God, all things work together for good for those who are called according to his purpose. For those whom he foreknew, he also predestined to be conformed to the image of a son in order that he might be the first born among many brothers.

And those who be predestined, he also called, and those who be called, he also justified. And those who be justified, he also glorified. Amen.

It's actually, it's an awesome verse and it's sad that people would kind of twist it, you know, and make it not teach exactly what it is teaching. So what are some things from the prior interpretation we can latch onto? Well, we can latch onto that God does indeed love us. And for those that also love him, he will work all things for good.

Right. Now what they do is they take that word good and they attach their very own meaning to it. Right.

And then that's when we get into dangerous territory with the text. It's God's good, not man's good. Exactly.

So we have to remember that. So we see how the text starts off. It's because of our weakness, the spirit will help us.

So this whole verse we got to remember is in context of the creation. You know, there's this future glory that we're awaiting. The creation is awaiting a future glory and we're also waiting a future glory, which is why, what did he end with in chapter 30? Those who be justified, he also glorified.

That's what this whole verse is talking about, both the creation and the image bearers, humans are waiting to be glorified because of this plunge into sin. Well, even more specifically, God's children. Yes.

God's children, not the image of God generally, not every person. This is after the fact. Yeah.

They're talking specifically about those who are in Christ. Exactly. Yeah.

Which is what you meant. I knew that. That is what I meant.

Yeah. Sorry. That's good to qualify that though.

Yeah. Those who do not love God, I imagine they're not groaning because of their sin. They actually love their sin.

Yeah. And they feel like everything's maybe something is a little wrong to them, but they're content in their sin. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. Yep.

So the spirit is helping us in our weakness because we've been plunged into sin. There's an issue now. We're totally depraved.

For what? We do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the spirit himself intercedes for us with groaning for words. So let's see, the spirit is groaning with us. What was the creation doing? It waits with eager longing to be revealed.

And I think there are some translations that also, well, I just say, and not only the creation, but we ourselves who have the first week, the spirits grown intimately. That is verse 22 and 23. So the, you know, this whole groaning thing is again, awaiting that glory.

And that's what Paul's connecting. So we're groaning and the spirit is interceding for us because what we feel this anguish and we don't know what the will of God is, how is it going to be accomplished in our lives? How are we going to be justified? How are we going to be conformed to the image of the sun? How is God going to work all things for our good? We don't know how to pray that we don't know what the will of God is. We're ignorant to that.

We're still sinful human beings. Right. So yeah, Paul's teaching us that there's something unique that happens here with the spirit of God is what Jesus says.

It's good for me to go away. So the helper will come because he will intercede and help you in your weakness and prayer and be praying over you. Jesus is also again, the mediator.

He's praying over us. High priestly prayer. He does that eternally now.

Yeah. Anything to add? Yeah. Um, yeah, I think it's just so beautiful here that there are, even though we have God's revealed word, we don't have the entire revelation in God's mind.

Yeah. We don't know God's mind. His thoughts are way higher than our thoughts.

Yeah. Our ways are way higher than our ways. Like we can't completely engage and step into this revelation and full comprehension.

There is only so much that's been revealed to us. That's why Deuteronomy 29, 29, the secret things belong to the Lord our God, but the things that are revealed belong to us. So like, like you just said, we don't know the content of the secret will for God.

We know we are to be redeemed. We know we are awaiting that glorious day where we are brought into the family of God and our bodies are redeemed. Yeah.

Um, but we don't know, like you were saying, the content of those prayers specifically. And that's what the spirit knows. Yes.

And why we need his intercession. Exactly. Yeah.

So the spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God. So what, as he intercedes, what is he doing at all? What is the, like the telos? What is the goal of it? What's the end of it? What's it according to the will of God? That's the whole point of he's interceding because who's the one who knows the mind of God, the spirit. Is that in a quick way? Where's that at where it says the spirit searches.

It's like in one of the Corinthians, isn't it? Paul says it in Romans. Is it Romans too? Well, anyways, there is a verse somewhere. I actually don't have it.

Is it 11? Do you love bringing up verses and saying like, it's somewhere around there. Also that's bad. Don't follow me in that.

Just learn the verse so you can know exactly where it's at. Because I just can't memorize all this stuff 24/7. I mean, he like says pretty much the same thing.

But he does. He is saying it. Yeah.

It's like, who's the one that knows the will of God? Who can, who can search? God searches our hearts and he knows what is in the mind of the spirit, which is the mind of the spirit is the same thing as the mind of God. He's the only one that knows the mind of God. He's the only one that's in the mind of God.

He is the spirit of God. Does that make sense? What an essence. He knows all things.

That's it, baby. So yes. And then we see the spirit interceding because he's another person.

One in essence, but then we have this relational difference. And we also do see some Trinitarian language here. Yeah.

And it's again, very important to hit on the spirit himself knows God's will, which we don't know. Exactly. That's specifically what this is talking about here.

And that's what he's interceding for. Yep. So then what comes right on the heels of that? So the spirit intercedes for the sense, according to the will of God.

And we know here's the verse that for those who love God, all things work together for good. So he's talking about, he literally just said that the spirit of God is going to intercede and pray according to the will of God. And what do we at least know? You know, he can't, Paul obviously didn't know all things.

So he couldn't just, he knew how that worked in the Christian's life and how the Trinity was working with Christians as we pray. And when we don't know what to pray. So he can't just review it all for everyone's life and say, that means God's going to do this, this, and this, and this.

Paul didn't have that knowledge and the book would be an exhaustive that we, the Bible would be infinite if how God was going to work in everyone's life. So Paul doesn't labor to tell us every little nuance to every single person's life, every Christian that would ever live. What does he tell us? He just tells us that God, no matter what it is, that his will, that the spirit is praying is going to work for our good.

And what is that good? And again, for those that are called according to his purpose, those that are called, those that are believers, and what is that? What is that good that he's working together for those who love God? And then he ends with the golden chain. They're like one of the most precious verses in all the Bible 29 through 30. For those whom he foreknew, he also predestined to be conformed in the image of his son in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers.

For those who be predestined, he also called, those who called, justified, those who be justified, he also glorified. So what is the good that God is rotting out inside of us, that the spirit is interceding with us to pray, if that we would be, look like Jesus, that we be conformed in the image of his son? And that we would have the end of it, which is glorification, the entire sanctification of our souls and bodies. That is our greatest good.

So when it says there, he's working on things for our good, what's our greatest good that look like Jesus and how is Jesus perfected, right? It says in Hebrews that Jesus was made perfect through suffering. Yeah. So it does not always necessarily mean God could very well, he does work, peace and joy, the fruits of the spirit inwardly with Christians, but in terms of external circumstances, it by no means means, it by no means means that you will have a nice car or a nice house or be a middle-class American or I don't know, like any, anything, any material possession you can name.

It does not necessarily mean that, but I guess it could. That is a, those things are providences of God that is part of his goodness towards us, his goodness altogether. Right.

It's just providence also, but it does not necessarily mean that. So do not, if you hear a teaching that would like to use this verse in that light, just remember, shall we not also receive evil from God? Yeah. Both good and evil.

Right. Remember Job. Remember Job.

Remember Job's life. So whenever you see talking about goodness for the Christian, look, just remember, remember Jesus's life, most of all, I mean, yes, Joe, yeah, that's like Job's life, but remember Jesus's life. If the, if the son of God, the, the chosen one that we might all be chosen in him had a life that was perfected in suffering that looked like his, I mean, what, what do you think your life's going to be like? Right.

You're not just going to be, yeah, you know, without any pain or suffering whatsoever. Is a servant above his master? If they have persecuted me, they will persecute you. Yeah.

And what's that do to the Christian when you have, you believe this text means that God will never harm you or do anything hard in your life. And then something hard happens. You're like, wait a second.

That must mean that I'm not chosen. God does not want me. Yeah.

You know, if that, if this text means that those who are called, he's going to work all things for good and nothing bad should ever really happen to me. It should just be good things. It's actually, sorry.

Well, I'm just saying that that would actually, we need to read this text the way it's supposed to be rendered, which will actually give us hope that even in the hard things in the suffering that God's working that for good. That actually, there's much more hope in the appropriate accurate reading of the text than there is in the cherry picked distorted version of the text. Yeah.

The true gospel is a gospel that comforts the souls of man. And that's why we need this beautiful gospel. But it's kind of ironic that we're talking about this today.

Julian and I were watching a little house in the Prairie last night, which if you guys are familiar with the show or if you are the theology in the little house in the Prairie is horrible. It's whack. The pastor of the church is like, I would even question if he was actually a Christian.

He sounds more like a pagan to me, but so essentially like their house got broke. There was a tornado and it took all their crop and tore up their house. And yeah, the main character Charles Ingalls was like, God hates me now because the bad theology is stuff like this where people would just say, God works everything in my life for good that I think is good.

Yeah. That's what Charles Ingalls thought. Yeah.

No, this is what God's going to do for me. Yeah. God's going to keep me tight.

Exactly. But yeah, that's not at all what God's good is because God's good is that you're conformed to Christ's image, which is as Rocky's already beautifully said, is our greatest good that we could ever have. Exactly.

That is the greatest good for any human that whatever exists, that would be your greatest good. Some people obviously reject the truth and unrighteousness. They're suppressive.

Okay. Oh, sorry. One point of application for that real quick is when we pray and we don't know God's will, instead of whining and griping about not knowing it and maybe God has left me.

I'm not. This is going to be a good point. Yeah.

I'm ready for the end. This is going to be good. Really? That's good.

I know what you're getting at. Learn how to legitimately pray to your precious father and the way we pray to God is that his will would be done, not ours, and that we would be conformed to Christ's image. We should not say, "Woe is me when trouble comes to us," because indeed this is what God has promised us.

We will be troubled. We will be persecuted. All who desire to live a Godly life will face persecution.

So when you're praying to God, don't whine, don't gripe. Just pray that you'd be like Christ. And for people you're discipling, pray that they would be like Christ.

Exactly. And if you're married, pray that your wife would be like Christ and pray that you would be like Christ. And everything you do, that's our greatest good.

And even though we don't know the content of how that would look, right, Job didn't know the content. Christ didn't know the content because he was God. He knew exactly what mission he was coming to do, but Job didn't know, right? And that's why he just relied on the promises of God.

Yeah. That is a big part of faith, just trusting. You have to trust this verse that even in the midst of the suffering and the trials, that you have to trust that God is going to, at the end of your life, you will look more like Jesus.

If you truly do love God, he will do this. It might be through a really crappy life. It might be through a very tough life, but guess what? You have eternal life in Christ.

This is what a light momentary affliction for the glory that awaits us. Right. And it's because the foundation of our love for God is his first love for us.

Unconditional election. Exactly. Unconditional love.

He's spawned this within our hearts, right? The Spirit has come and dwelled himself in our hearts that we would love God. Right. Amen.

He's taken out our heart of stone, given us a heart of flesh that we would follow after his command. All that he's commanded us. Yeah.

Right. You can't put the cart before the horse. Yeah.

We don't love God and then we will be glorified. God loves us. He saves us.

Yeah. And our end will be glorification. He's the foundation.

And that's why our hope is we do know this end. And that's why he says back in verse 23, and not only the creation, not only does the creation grown, but we ourselves who have the first fruits of the Spirit grown inwardly as we wait equally for adoption of sons, the redemption of our bodies. So he's talking about the same thing.

We're going to have this end. The end is we shall be glorified in Christ. Yeah.

And his everlasting kingdom. And what's cool is right after this, he talks about nothing can separate us from the love of God. Who shall bring any charge against God's elect? That's verse 33 right after this part.

So there's much hope in this text more so than what people would actually, the people that distort the verse actually rip all the hope out of it and destroy it. Yeah. All right.

They really do. And that's why truly understanding the Bible is such a comfort to the soul. Don't leave it to another man to understand it for you.

Leave it to yourself. Go pick up the word, take up and read. Take up and read.

Bryce and I aren't pastors or anything. Yeah. Like we're not, we don't go to seminary.

Like we don't go to any of that. Like you're not just supposed to think, oh, that's the pastor's job. The pastor's the one that reads the Bible.

The pastor's the one that prays a lot. And the pastor's the one that shares the gospel. Like our pastors say at the time, it really annoys them.

Like somebody's on their deathbed and somebody in the congregation says, can you come share the gospel with so and so? And they're like, you share the gospel. Like the great commission's for you as well. And you know them.

You actually have built a relationship to speak it to their lifelike. You're not supposed to, as a lay Christian, not read your Bible, not understand your Bible. Like pick up stuff to read.

Pick up Matthew Henry's commentary. Like he will teach you. You can be taught.

Being a pastor does not mean you're smarter than anybody else. You can be more theologically adept as a layman than a pastor. It's just that they're called to that work.

It doesn't mean that you aren't supposed to, like John Bunyan was a... Tinker. Tinker. A.W. Tozer, self-made theologian.

Like he didn't go to, you know what I mean? Charles Spurgeon. Charles Spurgeon, self-made. Like when I say self-made, not as in they kind of, yes, they put in work, but it's the Spirit of God that teaches Christians how to understand his work.

And how does the Spirit of God teach? It's by his word. Yeah. By his word.

That's cool. He's inspired it. So all who are led by the Spirit are led by the word.

If you're not led by the word, you're not led by the Spirit. So put down your video games. Put down... Turn off the TV.

Turn off the TV. Get... Stop with the sports. Yeah.

Buzz off the sports. Buzz off of it. If you have to, get a shotgun and shoot your TV.

Yes. That's wise. That's what wisdom calls for.

Wisdom calls for that. Read the book of Proverbs and by the end, all the TVs in your house will be shattered. No, that's not true.

No, you can watch TV and just don't let it become an idol. Anything can become an idol. That's right.

Even the Bible. What do you think about that? We can do podcasts on that some other time. Don't even attempt it.

No. It can't be. It can be? It can't be.

It can't? It can't be. We will revisit that question and I will... You guys will hear me actually argue with Bryce for the first time ever. You think you can... It's funny.

Every single one of these podcast guys, you have no idea. Bryce and I spent about 30 minutes arguing about the text we're about to go into or whatever we're talking about. We're always on the same point by the end of it.

Yeah. We just... We always somehow like God really gives us a ministry... Well, his heart. A ministry of reconciliation that brings us back together.

It's week by week I have to be reconciled to this. Yeah, it takes one week to really build up some animosity and then God breaks that down. I'm praying Monday through Saturday.

For this moment, Lord help me please. He's a terrible... We have one more thing to address. Full circle ending back to the Pentecostals.

Back to the pangs. Back to the Pentecostals. All right.

So one more thing that we got to hit. Okay. Verse 26, "But the Spirit himself intercedes with us with groanings too deep for words." Did you guys know that that actually means that the groanings is a heavenly tongue that God grants you that only angels and God himself can understand and no man.

There's no human that can understand this language. Isn't that wonderful? If it were true. Sike.

I wonder what that's going to sound like. That might be super loud in their game. Sike.

Yeah, not to make light of an issue. We understand that people can definitely obviously put their own interpretation into it, but there really is nothing in scripture that would make one think that there's a heavenly language that can be granted to a Christian. Paul, 1 Corinthians 13, "If I speak in the tongue of angels." If I'm like a resounding, what is it? Symbols.

Cleaning. Cleaning. Clong.

Cleaning someday. I know. There is that too.

He's speaking hyperbole there. We can do all these. That's why he...yeah, we should do that one actually.

That's a misinterpreted text too. We can circle back to some more stuff about maybe verses that people have cherry picked to mean that there's a heavenly language. He's literally like clearly exaggerating.

It's so clear because he uses two other super harsh exaggerations that if you take that he is doing that, then the other ones sound ridiculous. Exactly. Pentecostals will take that one very seriously, but the other ones they won't take seriously.

We can hit all that, but we just want to say real quick that that verse, 26, "When the Spirit intercedes, its groaning is too deep for words." That means it's not...this is a spiritual act. There's not words being uttered by the Christian. The whole point is in our weakness of prayer, we don't know what we ought to pray.

It's not that the Spirit takes control of your tongue and then begins uttering a tongue that's angelic and then helps you to pray things that you don't even know what you're praying. What he actually does is he advocates before the Father and communicates to the Father through...I don't know by what...I mean he is God himself. There's not even a communication.

There's a lapse in time. I have to say this word and you guys have to register it in your brains and understanding, and that takes a second. The Spirit knows the mind of God.

It takes no time to communicate these things. God knows all things. It doesn't take time to communicate, if that makes sense.

That's what's being taught here. Also that would just indicate too a misunderstanding of groanings because as Rocky's already pointed out brilliantly, the past two times it's been used for groanings is talking about the groaning of need for redemption. So if you take that to actually mean a heavenly language, then also the creation, the trees of their own...waterfalls, trees, everything has apparently an angelic language.

Angelic tongue that can be uttered. Well Rocky the birds, that's why they're chirping at God. Oh the birds.

They're chirping at God. Have you actually heard somebody say that? No, I haven't. I do think they're singing for...they proclaim the glory of God just by virtue of being a thing.

But that's not a heavenly tongue. It's not. And that's why guys, if you notice, I mean again we're not trying to be disrespectful to people but that's just an isolated text because if they were being logical in their position then they would also say that creation has a heavenly tongue because it also groans.

And then by consequence it would also refer to us as well which would be easier for them to hold. But the one about creation, it's clear obviously, creation does not have a tongue. The earth is not crying out.

The earth doesn't have a consciousness. That's pantheism. Pantheism.

Don't even think it. Don't even think it. Which just means that the world is God.

Everything is a mind. Everything is a mind, yeah. But yeah, so that's clearly not what it's talking about.

No heavenly tongue there. This is only talking about the spirit's intercession. Yes.

Into the mind of God by the will of God which we do not know. So if we don't know the content that means we're not praying. And it doesn't mean you speak in an unintelligible language and you don't know what you're saying and that's what that's referring to because again we've already clarified this.

That's not what that's talking about clearly. Clearly. Say it one more time.

Clearly? Clearly. And also tongues have never, there's not a single instance of tongue in scripture where it's an unintelligible language. So you have no reason to think that and in fact the only reasons, the only thing I would back that are pagan religions.

Because it actually has pagan religion. Exactly. Kundalini spirit.

And that's why there's a lot of Buddhism. There are unintelligible babblings. Your body is able to kind of conjure up babblings that sound very cool in the moment.

Very spiritual but they actually mean nothing. Right. They might be demonically influenced.

Unfortunately, sorry for the Pentecost is out there but we do think that that is not always demonically influenced. Your mind can just come up with it. But there are at times instances of religions and cults that babble like that and it is demonically influenced.

What other point I was going to make? Oh yeah, that word glossillalia that is used all throughout acts which is when tongues happens it is always an intelligible language. It's glossillalia is a human language. That is heard.

That is heard. And understood. And understood by somebody.

Right. So yes. Just had to adjust that real quick since we're talking about that text.

Yeah. Because they always go there. They always go there.

And they ought not to. Just like we don't know what we ought to pray for. Okay.

Good. Good wrap up. Anything else we need to address? Um.

I think we're good. We're not good but I think we're done. We're done.

We're done. Guess we're not good inherently. Well that's the end.

You guys can hang up. You guys can hang up first. What if that's how podcasts work? Okay.

I am almost done with school and we will be doing much more content this summer. Really look forward to that. Bryce said he wants to start spending four to five hours on these every day.

Make it kind of like a job. I really appreciate that he wants to put that kind of time in. Just kidding.

No he didn't say that. But we will be look forward to some more content this summer. We'll continue to do stuff on Sundays and hopefully get some extra Wednesday material out there.

And guys start leaving comments for Rocky to start paying me for this because it takes so much out of me. Bryce please. Buzz off dude.

Um. Yeah the website will be complete. Yes the bird.

Did you hear that? Yeah the weird. That was it. Did you hear the way my voice the inflection changed? That means a burp is being suppressed.

Um. Yeah it's kind of weird. Just get used to it.

But yeah I'll hopefully finish up the website soon. It's just so busy with school and stuff. But I'm almost done and then I will hopefully be able to benefit you guys with that.

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Besides that I have no way to market or advertise the podcast. So by word of mouth or you guys sharing it on your social medias or whatever. Or heavenly tongue.

Either or. Or heavenly tongue. That would just actually help a lot if you guys could share it.

Because really there's no way for it to spread. So for those of you that have shared it and have spread it and left a comment left a review left all these things I appreciate it so much guys. I've really enjoyed getting to know some of the people that have listened to the podcast.

And for those of you that are international or listening from other states. It's just it's awesome to see that happening. So yeah.

Soly Dale Gloria my friends. And Jesus is the king. For the King.

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