Marvel and DC's War on God with Pastor Joe Schimmel

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Marvel and DC's War on God with Pastor Joe Schimmel

May 4, 2022

I hope you enjoy this discussion with Pastor Joe Schimmel from GoodFight Ministries about the deceitfulness of Marvel and DC comics. I know this may seem fringe to many, but if you have a biblical worldview that says Jesus rose from the dead then this really isn't that wild of stuff! Links below to the documentary, Joe Schimmel's bio, a few videos previewing their content, and a press conference for the film.

Links:

* https://marveldcexposed.com/

* https://www.goodfight.org/about/joe-schimmel/

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6p4nsR0ZgQ

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyuVD5iKpOo

* https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/marvel-and-dcs-war-on-god-the-anti-christ-agenda-exposes-anti-bible-messages-in-pop-culture-301516422.html

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Transcript

(gentle music) - Before my eyes, but I can't imagine if I saw a movie with character being portrayed as Christ and like that character being, I don't know, like, yeah, made to look like an idiot or, you know, that would just leave me sick, you know, to see something after that. - Yeah. Even explaining to you, I've got a pain in my gut, it's sticking.

- Yeah. - You know? I mean, the Lord-- - That's what, that's what millions of people are watching this kind of propaganda, over and over again. And no wonder the world would hate, will hate Christ.

- Yeah. - To be that they'll fight against him. - Don't think I will even ask you to make Jesus Lord of your life.

That's the most preposterous thing I could ever tell you to do. Jesus Christ is Lord of your life. Whether you serve him or not, whether you bless him, curse him, hate him or love him, he is the Lord of your life because God has given him a name that is above every name so that the name of Jesus Christ, every knee shall bow and tongue confess that he is Lord.

Some of you will bow out of the grace that has been given to you and others will bow because your kneecaps will be broken by the one who rules the nations with a rod of iron. And I'll not apologize for this God of the Bible.

(upbeat music) Hey everybody, this is the For The King podcast.

I'm your host, Rocky Ramsey, where we proclaim the edicts of the king over all his creation that Yahweh reigns. And I'm joined today with Pastor Joe Schimel from Good Fight Ministries. And he's actually been working on a project called Marvel and DC's War on God.

And what they're setting out to do is to expose this kind of anti-Christ agenda behind a lot of what Marvel does, what DC does in the comics, but also in the movies as well, not just in the comics. So thanks Joe so much for being with me today and really looking forward to this whole conversation. - Praise God, it's great to be with Rocky.

- Yeah, do you wanna give us maybe a little background on Good Fight Ministries and kind of where you're based out of, I think you're out in California, but can you kind of just give us a little background so everybody can get to know you? - Yeah, Good Fight's been around for a lot of years. I've been passing a church for over 30 years and Good Fight Ministries was a minister, any evangelistic ministry where we, you know, win the lost, you know, anything for street witnessing to making exposés, making people aware of what's going on in popular culture, politics, ministry and so forth. And we've been around for, wow, since the early 80s actually, giving away my age here.

But it basically, you know, we use basically what, the idols of this age is kind of a conicalistic in the sense that we expose idols of this age that are taking not just the children, but adults into spiritual captivity through Hollywood, through popular music and so forth. A lot of Christians are unaware that a lot of what they're getting into is, you know, basically a lot of it's based on, you know, spiritual propaganda. 'Cause the Bible says we wrestle out of his flesh and blood, you know, but it gets the principalities and powers and the rules of the darkness of this world, spiritual weakness in high places.

So we expose the reality that many of these artists, whether it's film or music, many of them acknowledge that they are channeling spirits. I mean, it's in their interviews and so forth. And the scriptures warn us as believers not to be, you know, not to entertain mediums, those who are channeling spirits and look at the messages that they're purveying.

A lot of them are just, you know, quite demonic. And the Bible says in 1 Timothy 4, first couple of verses, that the Holy Spirit speaks expressly, that in a lot of times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrine of demons. So Ephesians 5,11 says, have no fellowship with the unproof works of darkness, but rather expose them.

So every Christian, that's not just the pastors, I'm a pastor, but that's to Christians in general, that we're supposed to be making people aware of the powers of darkness and what they're doing in this world so people can realize that they're being held bound by satanic forces and that the only way to be set free is through a relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ. - Yeah, that's good. You already got the gospel going in there.

That's amazing. Yeah, just a few things to go off there. Hopefully that's encouraging for you to see me as a young man.

I'm a layman, I'm not a pastor, and I'm out here having you on. We talk about these things on the podcast, discerning, being like- - That's awesome, bro. - That know the times, we want to poke the idols in the eyes so that they get mad and then Christ can come and destroy them and slam with his word.

So I'm right there with you and I'm glad that you're already centering on the gospel 'cause that really is Christ triumphing over the principalities and the authorities and putting them to open shame. That's beautiful that we have. - Yeah, Colossians too, amen.

This is victory. - Yes, okay, yeah, that's good. Okay, so that's good background.

It's nice to get to know you more. And so we can really get into the content here of what you're coming to speak to us about, this documentary about Marvel and DC and some of the demonic forces behind what's being articulated to the populace and here in America through Hollywood. So my first question to you, Joe, is what made you want to expose Marvel and DC? How did this come about? What's the journey? You've done other stuff with rock and roll and some of the demonic influences there.

Why are you here now? Why do you think this is a good battle to be fighting? - Yeah, I think it's important because first of all, the superhero movies are the biggest, Avengers is the biggest movie genre in the world by far. I just saw, we in our video, Marvel and DC's War and God, we go through the top 10 movie franchises and four of them are based on superheroes. And the first one that's number one that trumps everybody else is the Avengers movies, Marvel's movies.

And some of the other movies are made out or the franchise is made on Marvel characters. So really a lot of the world youth and not just youth adults, I mean, a lot of these superheroes were heroes, superheroes that we grew up with seeing in comics and so forth. So that wasn't just that because at the time, I had done videos, they sold their souls for rock and roll, rock and roll sources, new revolution, Hollywood's War and God had done a lot of exposés.

But as far as the superhero movies, you were hoping that, I guess it was some naivety feeling, well, hopefully those aren't as bad because they're geared toward kids, but you come to realize that things that are geared toward children, you have to have your spiritual antenna up even higher and a stronger resolve to make sure that you're discerning as to what the kids are being fed. And early on, I'd taken, wow, Spider-Man, I remember I was a little kid, I like Spider-Man, I wasn't, he'd watch the TV shows, I wasn't heavily into comics or anything. And we took our children, a few kids and took them to see Spider-Man.

First, the big Marvel movies that were coming out were Spider-Man and Iron Man and so forth. And we went there and I was very dismayed because the Green Goblin shows up and there is Aunt May, she's praying on her knees, the Lord's prayer, our Father, who art in heaven, I will be thy name. And then he shows up and he's yelling at her, "Finish the prayer!" You know, just really diabolical.

And she was at the part, lead us not in temptation, deliver us from evil. And the prayer was that Yahweh, God the Father, would deliver her from evil. And yet he screamed at her, "Finish the prayer!" And she tries to finish the prayer and he bludgeoned her and she ends up at the hospital, kind of like showing, "Hey, guess what?" You know, the message I got out of that was, guess what, her prayer, you know, God didn't protect her, but guess who will? The friendly neighborhood Spider-Man will show up and he'll be the hero, you know? And I saw that and I left like, man, what was the idea? What was the writing behind that? 'Cause we were very aware of what a lot of these writers and directors at Hollywood's not known for their morality or their love for Jesus.

So it's like, what's going on there? Well, then I continued to see over and over again, you know, I went to a few more of these movies with the kids and we don't go to a whole lot of movies. I took them to some of these and tried to find more innocent movies once in a while for him, 'cause we're very guarded. So it was like, you know, didn't want to take everything from him.

So, but I started to notice that often the villains, often the villains, the villain that was a known villain, he was giving Christian or Christ-like characteristics. And I started saying, "Wow, there's an inversion going on here." Like we exposed in "Hollywood's War on God," where there's Gnostic inversion going on over and over again, where the book of Revelation is kind of flipped, the script has changed, the evil ones glorified and God has made to look evil. And I saw that, you know, and it became less and less subtle.

And I, you know, got to the point my kids were older and I told my wife and kids, it's like, well, you know what? Manly was my son, I've got a few kids, but, you know, he'd watch with my wife when something would come on the television, whatever, superhero movie, off and on, not a lot, but I wouldn't join them. And I'd just say, "Hey, it's just my conviction. You know, he's older now, you guys have to make your own decision, but it's my conviction that there's something really, you know, I don't trust it.

It's just, you know, there's something diabolical going on there, I feel to one degree or another, could put my finger on it totally." And then I broke, great question. I'm watching a trailer, you know, of "Avengers Endgame." And "Avengers," I'd already seen the trailer for "Avengers Infinity War," and then "Endgame." And when I saw "Infinity War," I was like, "What in the world?" Because what happens is, when I saw the, I didn't watch the movies at that point, and I wasn't going to until I realized, "I need to research this because Phatos, who's, you know, is the wicked, you know, tyrant, who's going to judge the world, comes to the earth, and he describes himself as I am, you know, pregnant, pause, you know, inevitable, you know? And then in "Avengers Endgame," the same thing happened. I am.

I thought, you know, anybody who knows the scripture knows that that's how Jesus, you know, revealed himself not only to his followers, but to the Roman government when they went to arrest him and all the, you know, said, "I am," or E-M, "I am." And they felt, Jesus said before Abraham was, "I am." And God defines himself, or declares of himself, I should say, in Exodus 3.14 as the "I am" that I am. And I thought, you know, but what are they doing there? Are they doing the inversion? I've seen some of those movies as they were blatant. And then I checked out the movie.

And I was blown away because it was a whole, it's called the "Endgame." It's all Armageddon, end of the world scenario. And just as Christ comes back as the great, I am to judge the world, Thanos is the I am. He comes back and he's going to judge the world.

And the Bible tells us that demonic entities, three of them come out of the beast, the false prophet, and Satan, they go forth, the king is the world, to gather them together for the battle of the great day of God, which is Armageddon. And so you see on the earth that there's this physical, this physical world, the nations of the world join together. We also see these spiritual entities join together with them.

And in this scenario with Thanos, the fight is Iron Man and the human entities, you know, so human superheroes and humanity, we join together with Dr. Strange and the spiritual entities to fight against this threat from outer space, the great, you know, this I am, who's depicted as the most powerful being in the universe at that point in the Marvel universe. So, and of course, you know, his first coming, I mean, it's amazing, you know, you know, the name of his ship is a sanctuary, you know, he's, you know, he leaves, you know, first time wounded comes back, you know, second time. There's just, and we show all these parallels, which once you see them, it's just like, okay, it's obvious now, you know, that what's going on there.

And we've seen this over and over again, what's going on here. So when I saw the movie, I was like, you know what? I've said a prayer, 'cause I'm busy as a pastor, you know, taking care of the flock, we have live stream churches and so forth, and I've taken care of people and mama, and counseling and getting messages together, I preach two times a week. But I do documentaries.

I thought, Lord, I don't, I just cried out, put my hands in the air in my office, same place I'm sitting right now. I said, Lord, if there's something going on here, you know, and this was going back to before I saw the movie, after I saw the trailer, there's something going on here, and there's something afoot with regard to that's organized and it's just like they sold their souls for rock and roll, which we've done, and all those were in God, that same movement, but through the superior movies. I go just burning out my heart, you know, make it clear, you know, the next morning I woke up and it was like, all bets were out, boom, man.

And as soon as I started doing research, I couldn't believe, I mean, my jaw was on the ground because I started researching the writers of a lot of these movies, the directors, looking at some of the actors and so forth, looking at the storylines. I was like, wow, the world is being conditioned, just like the Bible says that Satan is the prince and about power of the air, the spirit that works through the children of disobedience as he guides the course of this world. And I was like, you know, it was almost dumbfounding.

It was amazing. So that inspired me to do the research and then if, you know, and I hope people could check out the first installment, which we've got done, which is called, you know, it's Hollywood's War on God, I'm sorry, it's Martin D.C.'s War on God and the subtitle or the main title of the video of this particular unit is called, you know, it's basically anti-Christ agenda. And we look at basically, you know, and we have, I mean, people that are watching it.

I mean, you saw, you mentioned earlier, you know, the rate comfort endorsement. People that have seen it are blown away because we deliver the goods. We show, hey, this is something, in fact, somebody called me today and they said, hey, Joe, do you guys have any hard copies of that thing done yet? 'Cause right now, and they're coming in any day, they're gonna be mailed tomorrow, but we have it where you can watch it digitally online.

And he said, Joe, there's no way, I don't, can't think of any way people could argue against what you've shown. It's so obvious, you know, and it really is. - Good, yeah.

Yeah, I've been tracking the videos, you guys have been putting out a little five minute videos about this new Batman film with, what's that dude's name that was on Twilight. I can't remember, the newer Batman, how he was, he's following with, he's trying to portray a witch doctor Batman. - Yeah, exactly, that's taken from a comic, a book, right? Where it goes into Batman's history, right? And he basically goes through these different situations and he can't get success until he meets a shaman.

Shaman's are, you know, they channel evil spirits and then the shaman teaches him how to get power and as the Batman then becomes successful. - Yeah. - And that's played in, the movie plays off of that a bit.

- Yeah, it's been fascinating to follow the videos and I'm really excited to watch this first part and keep track with what you guys are doing. When I brought it up to my wife, I'm like, hey, I'm gonna interview this guy for my podcast that is exposing, and she said, 'cause she's from a homeschool family, so they're very discerning and they were filtered as kids. And I brought up how you guys pointed out Thanos is claiming that he's the I am multiple times throughout the Avengers series and she's like, yeah, well, we heard that in the series.

You know, right when we walked out of the movie theater, we were like, Thanos said he was the I am, her whole family noticed it. So I was just, yeah, exactly, I was like, wow, my wife is, you know, she, I guess the spiritual was serving, right? - That's good. - Yeah, and I had never even picked up on that.

Now, the thing that I, you know, one of the questions I was gonna ask you about concerning Doctor Strange being made in the image of Aleister Crowley and how Aleister Crowley fits into all this, but before we actually get there, I think Doctor Strange is definitely the most explicit occultic kind of element to the whole Avengers superhero Marvel DC universe, because he is like most obviously astral projecting in the films, like, and he's some very evil, you know, it's not a good power, even though, you know, they're portraying him like he's using it for righteousness sake, but yeah, what are your thoughts on that? What's your evidence for Doctor Strange being made in the image of Aleister Crowley, a known Satanist and-- - Well, yeah, Doctor Strange is known as a sorcerer. Marvel was smart about waiting until they broke him out to the public and movie forum, because he probably wouldn't have been accepted, you know, prior to, you know, Harry Potter and all that. Now he's made his debut, and he's an occultist, and you know, he's the master of the black arts as he's called in Marvel, you know? So, but to help your audience understand the connection with Aleister Crowley, just to help them understand briefly who Aleister Crowley was, so you realize how diabolical this is.

Aleister Crowley was a Satanist organizer, was highly regarded as Satanist of the last century. I mean, he was a guy who, instead of taking communion, he taught his disciples to use human excrement, blood and urine and sperm and human poop. He actually ate human excrement as part of his, and made wafers out of them, and he said the highest magical working that his followers could do, and he has many followers, we show in music, a lot of top musicians, top artists, and I don't think the decades, you know, our fathers Aleister Crowley's magic and so forth, he literally taught his followers the most important magical working, is basically mocking the communion of Christ, and making wafers out of human excrement, and the blood of children that have been sacrificed, and partake into these every day if they can.

He said with my hawk's hand, I peck out the eyes of Jesus as he hangs upon the cross, and the hawk symbol for him was the age of Horus. He taught that the age of Christ has passed, the age of Horus is coming. He said he wasn't content just to get in touch with Satan, but he wanted to become his personal chief of staff.

He signed his name to Beast 666. He talked about the coming age of Antichrist, and he hoped that he himself would be the beast, the Antichrist. He died, of course, quite a few years back, but he's influenced so much of what's going on in popular culture today, and well, you know, I'll just say this, our next video is coming out, there's a movie, a Marvel movie, "Dr.

Strange" is coming out, I think it's May 6th, if I'm right, coming up right around the corner here, and our video, we're hoping to get out in late May, and that'll feature mostly Dr. Strange, and all the parallels between him and Satanist, so Lester Crowley, which again are undeniable. We literally, we show how Dr. Strange, before he was Dr. Strange, was first broken out as Dr. Droom, not Dr. Doom, but Dr. Droom, D-R-O-O-M, and he was a sorcerer, and then he became, Dr. Droom became Dr. Druid, and then Stan Lee of Marvel said, "We wanted to bring back, you know, the sorcerer, you know, Dr. Druid, who had been Dr. Droom. We brought him back in the form of Dr. Strange." Well, if you look at Dr. Droom, which we go through Dr. Droom and Dr. Druid's origin story, they're the same, and Dr. Strange is a take-off of those two, and it's interesting because his origin story, even though the movie made him American, that superhero movie, you look at his origin story in Marvel Comics, he's British like Lester Crowley.

He went to the Himalayas like Lester Crowley. He practices Western and Eastern mysticism, which he synthesizes the two together like Lester Crowley. He has a place called the Sanctum Centorum, which where he practices magic.

That's from Lester Crowley. He uses the Eye of the Triangle. That's from Lester Crowley.

In fact, we show Dr. Droom, and he's the first incarnation of Dr. Strange, and he's bald-headed with the same face. He's a spitting image of Lester Crowley. They were smart in changing his look because people would probably be onto that after a little while.

Crowley was known when they first broke him out, as it would later. I'll say this too. Steve Engelhardt, who did a lot of the major stories with Dr. Strange through the '70s, Steve Engelhardt was a member of Crowley's OTO, and he wrote a lot of the stories about Dr. Strange.

In fact, we're going to be showing an interview in our second video, where he's being interviewed by Crowley and disciples. The show starts off with, "Do what thou will, shall be the whole of the law," which was Crowley's maxim, not do God's will, but do your own will. It starts off that way.

And he says that he joined the OTO, and he wanted to learn because he was doing Dr. Strange, and he wanted to work more of that stuff and understand magic better and so forth, and work that into his character. It's mind-boggling. And then you look at the inversion, it's all this Gnostic inversion, probably had what he called the Gnostic mass, and his Gnostic inversion.

Gnosticism was the first most blatant form of Satanism after the early church had started. And the Gnostics claimed to be the true Christians. However, they were in dire straits, because they didn't have the Old Testament prophecies.

They hated the Old Testament God, who prophesied about the coming of Messiah, the Lord Jesus, so they couldn't really rely on the Old Testament. And they claimed that Jesus was basically one of the eons like Sophia that had come to earth to just show us knowledge. He had come to really die for our sins.

And well, they taught that Yahweh, the creator of the universe, is evil. And they taught that, so most people, when you talk about Gnosticism, if they don't know much about it, they'll say, "Yeah, that Gnostics, didn't they believe that matter, the physical world's evil?" And yeah, they certainly did. But you know why they believed the physical world was evil? Because they believed it was created by Yahweh, an evil being.

So they believed that there's this entity called the ultimate death, who's the impersonal, true, one true God. And from him came a series of eons, like Sophia, for instance, and Jesus and so forth. But one of these, Sophia got really upset 'cause she couldn't know this creator.

And she got really upset with him. So she created a monstrosity, another God with a low IQ, but a lot of power. And his name is Yahweh, according to the Gnostics.

And Gnostics, and then Yahweh thought he was the only God because he didn't know he was created by Sophia. So he says, "Before me, there was no God for him." And he creates the physical universe. And he traps humans in these physical bodies.

The physical world's evil, remember? And Sophia's like bummed out, like, "Look what I've done. I've got to set these people free, their spirits free from these prisons that Yahweh has created for them." And she chattels the serpent in Genesis, and she's a savior who shouts a serpent and says, to partake of the forbidden fruit, you shall be as God. And so what happens is Satan, so it's what the serpent biblically becomes the savior.

And God, Yahweh, becomes the devil. Everything gets inverted. And that's basically what's going on there.

So listen to this. In "Dr. Strange" is one of the, I mean, if you look at the Gnostic universe, or you look at, I'm sorry, the Marvel universe, if you ask people who the most powerful entity is in the Marvel universe, the comic guys that are really into comics and everything, they'll debate it.

Many of them will say Sissonk, but Sissonk's not a good guy. And they'll say Sissonk because he's the one that created the Marvel universe. Well, guess what? Sissonk is an evil entity, but he's Yahweh.

So Steve Engelhardt, who we show in his OTO garb, we show that he's asking Jimmy Page, the leader of Led Zeppelin at the time, if he can use his mansion overlooking Loch Ness, which used to belong to Crowley, praised with the follower Crowley. He said, "Big names are made today, not through Ready, Steady, Go, but through practicing the magic of Lester Crowley." That's Page of Led Zeppelin. He writes a letter asking if Steve Engelhardt does an ambassador for the OTO, Crowley's organization, if they could use his mansion overlooking Loch Ness for their OTO meetings.

So it shows you where he was at. So in the story arc with Steve Engelhardt and Dr. Strange, he has him fight against this other sorcerer named Sissonk. And Sissonk has the power to go back in time and absorb the power of other magicians.

So the story goes, you see Dr. Strange following him back in time and he's absorbing the occult power from King Arthur and he's going back in time. He's getting bigger and bigger than Dr. Strange. He can't stop him.

Dr. Strange is the good guy. The Crowley sorcerer is the good guy trying to stop this evil Sissonk. That's how they make it.

Everything's inverted. And he goes all the way back to like Sodom Gomorrah. And Sissonk sees that Sodom Gomorrah is wicked.

The people are living wickedly. He decides that he's gonna destroy it with fire and brimstone. And Dr. Strange says, "Don't do this.

These are really good people deep down." And Sissonk destroys them. You see Lot and his wife and kids leaving Sodom Gomorrah. Then it goes further in Genesis.

You see Adam and Eve were a-pominance, you know, with an apple, you know, by an apple tree. And then it goes back before creation. And guess what happens? Sissonk recreated the entire universe pretty much like it was, they think.

And he becomes the creator. He says, "No longer call me Sissonk. Call me Genesis." Genesis happens to be Sissonk spelled backwards.

Now Lester Crowley told his disciples to write backwards. It was a Crowley in Satanist at the time, Steve Engelhardt, who wrote that story art and put so much into Crowley. But even before Steve Engelhardt was on the scene, he was already made to look like Crowley through Dr. Drume.

And we show, what we show in our upcoming video is one parallel after another, after another, with really good graphics showing, look at, this is definitely, he's definitely made an image of Lester Crowley, but guess what? He's celebrated today. And we show even in the movies, you know, he goes into learn the occult, learn knowledge when he's in his first movie with Dr. Strange. He's going to, in this occult library.

And it won't take the time to detail it, but he gets into a book that's associated with Crowley that is pulled from the shelf. As he's attaining this knowledge, it shows an apple getting magically eaten, you know, which is symbolic of occult knowledge, you know? So we go on and on about that, but that hopefully that will suffice, if not ask me more about it. - No, yeah, that's fascinating.

Just some things that was going on in my head as you walk through it. I don't think a lot of people know just how prevalent Satanism is at the higher levels. There's the Church of Satan, which is like an atheistic group that just doesn't even believe there's a God, but then there's Satanism.

And that is something that actually is practiced where people view Satan as Lucifer, that he brings the light and Yahweh is the one bringing darkness, you know? Yahweh's not like Satan was freeing humanity. And actually I went to the Mormon Temple in Utah City and they actually have a similar view that Eve is freeing humanity by eating of the tree of the knowledge. - Yeah.

- So this Satanistic thought is, you know, like the scriptures say, woe is the one who calls good evil and evil good. Satan is very wise. He knows what's good.

He knows God is good. And he knows what evil is. He just has inverted it.

He flipped it. - Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely.

Even in the Mormon Temple, you know, they have the upside down pentagram they use. There's been an influence of Gnosticism on Joseph Smith. And because there's an influence of masonry, which has its Gnostic origins on Joseph Smith, who was a Mason.

And it's kind of crazy too in the early, until it was exposed some years ago, the Temple ceremony, Satan would confer the aprons upon the new initiates in the Mormonism through the Temple of Ammon. So it's interesting, good point that you bring that up, but it's interesting since you brought up there, people have no idea how high this reaches. We actually, I was mentioning earlier the wafer that they would use to mock the crucifixion of Christ.

And as Christians, we take the unleavened bread as a picture of Jesus's sinless body and his body that was, he sacrificed himself on the cross for the sins of the world. It's a beautiful picture. And we're talking about how they invert that.

And they actually take, and Crowley actually said that he called it SHT. And he says, it's to pick Satan and we're actually eating his Satan, which shows you how they really understand Satan as well. Well, it's interesting that he called them cakes of light, mixed with children's blood, blood from animals, urine, sperm, what have you.

Crowley talks about, and explains the recipe. Well, I don't know if you remember Rocky, but Marina Abramovich years ago during the WikiLeaks situation, during the WikiLeaks, when she was running for president, Abramovich, who Lady Gaga said she wants to incorporate, she's an artist, wants to incorporate her art into her own domestic life. Abramovich was involved in spirit cooking, making these wafers.

And one of the WikiLeaks was a email from Abramovich to Tony Podesta, the brother of John Podesta, who was a campaign manager for Hillary Clinton, and invites Tony to have a spirit cooking dinner with these, which she calls a spirit cooking, the same cakes of light that Crowley talked about. And she says to Tony, invite your brother and see if he wants to come to this spirit cooking dinner. Well, I don't know if John showed up or not, but she didn't have to explain what it was.

It's as though they knew what it was. And then we know that she was referencing these cakes of light that Crowley talks about, because we show a video on our YouTube site, we show a video of her showing her handle is, you know, Abramovich M666. We show 666, then we see up there urine, you know, sperm.

She has, she's writing this on the wall. She puts an effigy of a little child against the wall. She throws blood on it.

She claims it was pigs blood, not real human blood. And these were all the recipes of Crowley for these cakes of light. So these, his disciples are taking these wafers, okay.

And this isn't conspiracy theory stuff. This is stuff that's just documented. It's just out there, you know, these were probably the most inflammatory of the WikiLeaks, you know.

And so there's people that are practicing Satanists in high places that know what's going on that are following Crowley's teaching. And it shouldn't shock us because if you look at the Nazism and the Third Reich and the SS and Heinrich Himmler and how he was fully on into the occult, had a huge occult library, how Hitler was in the occult, and they were in touch with the spirit world. Well, Jesus was offered by Satan the kingdoms of this world if we bow down to him.

Of course, Jesus resisted Satan because the way he came to die for our sins is to free us from Satan's power. But these same spirits are work in politics or at work in Hollywood and the music industry and throughout the world. That's why it's so important for us to stay close to Jesus, to be in the word of God, to be getting together with our brothers and sisters in Christ, fellowship with them and preaching the gospel.

Jesus died. The Bible says the Son of God was manifested for this purpose to destroy the works of the devil. So he's come to deliver us from this darkness, but we can't be delivered from it when we're knee deep in it and just groveling, partaking of it.

So we have to also make a distinction in our hearts and know what the scriptures say about good and evil and recognize what's going on in this world. - Yep, amen, brother. Yeah, and apart from the grace of God, I mean, we would be Satanists.

(laughs) - That's right. That's what I was before I was a Christian. I was an occultist.

I didn't believe Satan existed. I mocked Christ. I wrote songs that were pro-Satan, but I just thought it was a joke.

And I knew I was in touch with forces, but I thought they were just the power of my subconscious mind. But they ended up being very real. And I cried out to the living God in the midst of it.

I was moving sideways in my bed, having covers pulled down, writing songs that were glorifying Satan. My first song was, "I was falling forever deeper into the hole. I could be freed.

The devil was grasping my soul. Could hear my mother screaming, and my sisters dreaming, and my father dying, and my brother crying. At first I was troubled, the devil for the reason.

Then the choice of God, it'd be my soul and that of my family's to be treason. I couldn't wait to be a devil or a demon. And then I hit the final bottom and there I lied to say goodbye.

That was to my family. And so I went or maybe so. And so I left with my soul and began to rock and roll.

That's where my guitar solo was. So that song was about selling my whole family's souls to Satan for power. And at the time I didn't believe in Satan, but I couldn't understand why I was channeling lyrics.

I was practicing the power of the subconscious mind through visualization. I started going through all these experiences and channeling lyrics. And then when I cried out to God in the midst of one of my experiences, I realized, wait, what if this is evil? Because it's too deep to get into, but in the midst of one of my experiences, I literally, I was laying in bed, was going through one of these experiences.

And I realized it seemed like it could be really horrific. I was like, what in the world? What to roll off my bed? And it's clear as I'm talking to you right now, Rocky. This is a voice that hold on, hold on.

And in my heart, I was about to stop, but I just kept rolling. Went into my bathroom crying, had long hair at the time, guitar player and everything was wiping my eyes and my hair was sticking out on the sides because my hands were the tears and everything. Say, leave me alone.

I realized at this point that I wasn't in touch with my subconscious mind. I realized I was in touch with demonic entities and that this Christian faith that I was mocking, I was the fool. I realized what in the world? I was mocking Christianity.

I'd write songs against the Christian God, your God is your myth or myth is your God and on and on. I just thought, wow, man. I didn't know the Bible says rebellion is as a sin of witchcraft, but I'd open myself up to the spiritual world.

And then when I, in the midst of, then the next time I went through a mixed experience, I cried out to God. I would go through a state of paralysis where I couldn't move and there'd be like a humming, high pitched humming sound going through my head. I cried out to God, I said, only if this is, only goodness and right as I started to cry out that, boom, it stopped.

And I could never get that experience to stop before. And I realized, you know, that happened twice in a row and two witnesses, I realized, wow, you know what? I woke myself up, I got on my knees, I cried out to God, I opened the word of God. And this book that I thought was a joke, all of a sudden the words are jumping off the page.

I'm like, wow, spiritual truth, history is linear. It's going to its culmination where God hopefully has a victory, but Satan was trying to use me. And I believe he uses thousands and thousands of people.

I mean, I could have just been some club band or something because with the music I was writing and stuff, who knows what the enemy had, but then I realized, wow, this is real. Satan is real and he's using people. And I began to look at the music I was into and I began to read the interviews.

I said, I'm going to see the same thing I've been over and over again. I see them talking about these experiences with spiritual entities. And then I began to expose it.

So this is part for the course as far as just exposing what Satan has been doing. And praise God by his grace, when I came to Christ, my parents, all five of the kids, including myself, I'd already known Jesus. Now, all five of my siblings came to Christ, parents came to Christ, friends came to closest, friends came to Christ.

In fact, my family, I've been pastoring over 30 years. All of them have been a big part of the fellowship. My pastor all these years, a few of them had moved to Idaho where they have a livestream fellowship.

That's a blessed up livestream, which is same as our fellowship here where they tune in. And that's growing to a lot of our folks had moved from California to Idaho. And we're hoping to install a pastor over there pretty soon.

My brother, we've raised up. So God is good, bro. God's, the Lord is the gospel is being preached throughout the world and Satan hates it.

But the Bible says that we're not to be ignorant of Satan's devices in 2 Corinthians 2.11. Actually it says there, we're not ignorant of Satan's devices. Unfortunately today, most of the church is. - Yeah, thanks for sharing that brother.

It's great to always to hear testimony of what God has done. It's providence. So I appreciate you sharing that.

And this had happened with these actors, these Hollywood actors and these writers, Marvel and DC writers, and we pray for that, but we are trying to expose them and make them look silly that they're aligning themselves with Satan, who's a loser. That guy doesn't win. So, you know, it's a, we have a better story.

We have a Victoria savior. Yeah, so appreciate that. So, you know, some more things with this, just this narrative that you are presenting through good fight ministries and the documentary.

How do, so you talk about this inversion, this Gnostic inversion, making good evil and evil good. This is what Satanists love to do. How specifically do they mar, you've talked about Yahweh, but what about how do they turn Christ into a bad guy? You have in the trailer, there's in one of the, and what's the name of that? The one with Groot in it.

What's the name of that one? - Oh, you talk about the trailer itself. - Yeah, in the trailer, there's a scene with the, Chris Pratt plays Star-Lord, and I forget what the name of it, Guardians of the Galaxy. - What do you want me to do, like bow down to Jesus or something in a mocking way? They're mocking Christ's name.

Is that like a good example or are there other ways that? - Yeah, that's one example right there where Jesus has made his name, he was in vain as a joke, as though he wouldn't really qualify for a superhero. And sadly they have Chris Pratt doing that, but literally I just talked to someone recently who'd seen the video and they're like, "Man, it was really hard to stomach." And a lot of people give me the same reaction. I mean, several people, almost to a person when this part comes up about how they treat Jesus is how angry they get when they see it.

'Cause they're not aware of how Jesus is being portrayed in the superhero movies and television shows and what have you. So we have a whole section where we show how Christ is blasphemed over and over again. We show the graphics, we show the clips, over and over again.

And I'll give you just one really good example is there's a writer named Brian Ennis and he is one of the top writers. Ennis basically, he has a, I would call him a mouthiest instead of an atheist, a mouthiest is someone who believes in God and hates him. He might call himself an atheist, but he actually plays with the term mouthiest.

And it's like every work he does, it seems almost at least is anti-God and anti-Christ, man. So I'll give you an example. He had an AMC and his movies and television shows and stuff that are made out of his, there's series made out of his writing, whether it's on Netflix, Google, a Prime, AMC.

I think it's on AMC where his show "Preacher", it's called "Preacher". And "Preacher" is the hero. I mean, he's the one that you root for.

And "Preacher" is possessed by a fallen angel, demon named Genesis, and he's made to be good and altruistic to a degree. And, "Oh, he's bad, but guess what? They liked you to worship bad, but they made him the hero." And, well, guess what? Jesus, and it gets really involved, so I don't have time to explain it all here, we're getting to the video, we show the graphics with it, but I'll say some of the main points that I think are important to understand is Jesus is basically born after Mary's raped, by the archangel physically raped. And then Jesus doesn't really die on the cross and he's kept alive.

And then his physical offspring are kept alive in the desert from generation to generation by interbreeding within the family. So they become these monstrosities. And you fast forward to our time, and the preacher is basically, or the anointed one, the Christ, the preacher hates God, his whole thing about the preacher is he wants to destroy the creator, God, who's depicted as evil.

Well, but guess what? Preacher does wanna meet the Christ and he reveres the Christ. So there's something good, it seems, going on there. But he doesn't realize that the lineage of Jesus gone down through the years is you've got guys with only one eye in the middle of their head, who has sex with chickens, others.

And Jesus' lineage have sexual relationships with vegetables and stuff, they're just really perverted. And that's how it makes it so in the, there's actually a TV show, we play a clip from it, from the TV show, where there is the Christ figure is there and they make him look like the historical Jesus as he's often portrayed. And the preacher finally comes in, he's able to meet him.

And the Christ figure is studying the scriptures or shows him under a light in the distance. And his, basically, the guy who oversees his life and makes sure who can see him, who can't invite the preacher in, the preacher bows before him and says, "I've been longing to meet you, I can't believe, I'm humbled to be before the Christ." And as he's bowed before him, you don't see, except maybe part of the robe of who's supposed to be the Christ, all of a sudden he's being urinated on by the Christ figure and it's falling on his head and he gets up, "What the world's going on?" And the Christ figure's name is Humperdue and he's mentally challenged and he can barely talk. And he's made to look as ridiculous and idiotic as one could possibly make a person look.

And then you find out how he gets the name Humperdue because he goes up to not the preacher, but somebody else or that guy that lets the preacher in and he starts grading against him sexually. We cut it off as just before that starts. But what happens, people see that and they don't realize they're like, "I had no idea." And what I did, I took different reactions to that from the people that love the preacher and off of YouTube, their comments.

And they're saying things like, "Man, if I could, I'd punch him in the face, Humperdue the Christ figure." And if Jesus is like this, so what they're doing is just mass propaganda. And we show clip after clip of different things and we just show over and over again with both Marvel and DC that Christ has not made to be this wonderful savior of humanity who dies for the sins of the world. And you have to come to him to be saved, but he's made to be a monstrosity over and over again, or another occultist or something less than who he is.

- Yeah, that's blasphemous and great to be part of. And I was just thinking like, I've never even pondered that thought 'cause I will set up usually things like that before my eyes, but I can't imagine if I saw a movie with a character being portrayed as Christ and like that character being, I don't know, yeah, made to look like an idiot or that would just leave me sick to see something like that. - Even explaining to you, I've got a pain in my gut.

It's sticking. That's why millions of people are watching this kind of propaganda over and over again. And no wonder the world will hate Christ to the way that they'll fight against him.

- Yeah, I mean, that's the first couple steps of brainwashing, desensitization, desensitation and jamming. So both of those are happening there when you set your eyes on that body full of light. - That's right, that's right.

Jesus said, "The good man stores up good in his heart, but the evil man stores up evil." - Yeah, yep, yeah. So I guess maybe more on that, on what we're seeing out of Marvel and DC, we've talked about a few of the superheroes that, we talked about Batman being portrayed as like a witch doctor, Dr. Strange being the image of Alistair Crowley. Can you talk about maybe some other superheroes that people really love? We haven't even talked on Venom yet and the normalization of demon possession.

That's a wild one. But even the one you just said with Preacher, what are some other heroes that have very occultic history or- - Well, just even some of them, I mean, the biggest, going back in time, a lot of the comic heroes, Captain Marvel, he's crying out Shazam. Each letter of the acronym, Shazam, is really, it's not an acronym so much as each letter stands for a different God that he's invoking.

The Bible says that God's the nations are demons. Pretty soon coming out in a few months at the end of the summer will be, the Rock will be playing another, he'll be playing like the counterpart, the anti-hero of Captain Marvel. And that one calls out on these other Egyptian gods for strength and possession, including Horus.

And Horus was the Crowley and Age of Horus. So it's interesting, but you can look at some of the main characters, even Superman. When Superman was first developed by his developers, he was evil, he was the Ubermensch.

He was a German, he was made by a mad scientist who took a guy out of a bread line, a homeless guy, and gave him a potion. And the guy that ate the potion developed the cult of powers and the Claire of Wayans and so forth, killed the mad scientist and set out to destroy the world. And later he's resurrected and he's made into the Superman, the S, you know? I mean, it's kind of interesting, you have this guy that's a German Superman with an S on the front of his deal becomes, well, we show in our videos in our series that according to Grant Morrison, one of the top comic writers, number two in the polls by Comic Book Review, which is the biggest online website for comic fans is Grant Morrison, who has voted every day, he voted every four years and he has voted number two.

He has Superman as ushering in the Age of Horus, you know, and representing the Age of Horus of Crowley and so forth. Now we just talked about Batman briefly with the Shaman experience, the Shaman kind of discipling him and where he really becomes aware of his powers. But prior to that, we show in our video, those who developed Batman, same deal, Batman has a, you know, he's, we show the first horror movie where the guy gets the idea of Batman and this bat creature looks like Gotham.

It's kind of crazy, so many years back and looks like Gotham and he's actually a thief. He, you know, robs houses and he's an evil person. Well, they turn him into, they turn him into a hero, Batman, he's got this violent background and so forth.

But we quote, you know, top Batman writers, like the one who's been voted the best Batman writer, Neil, saying that Batman always had the iconography of a demon, you know? And we point out where Grant Morrison points out that Batman was always, you know, is reminiscent of Satan, you know? So, but it's subtle for a lot of people because it's like, wow, this bat-like character and he's got these dark, violent tendencies, but it's because he's avenging what happened to his parents. But it's interesting before his parents even get killed, like he has this experience in the Batcave where he's already in touch with these dark forces where he finds out that these were omens later from the shaman of what his destiny would be. So, and I'll give you one more since I'm using big ones right now as Wonder Woman.

We show where Marston, the guy who created Wonder Woman, and we haven't got this video out yet, but it's one of the seven I've done a lot of work on. I just gotta do the voiceover. We have to do the graphics too and so forth.

But Wonder Woman was created by Robert Marston who was part of a crowd, it wasn't a Crowley and sex magic cult, but it was another sex magic cult. And he was part of this sex magic cult. He'd go and perform orgies with his, at his aunt's house with some of the women he lived with.

He lived, we were talking 1930s, bro, way back. He lives with three different women. One's his wife, two of the women he lives with aren't married to him, but they are part of his harem, you know? And he lives with them.

Well, what's crazy about this is he develops Wonder Woman and after he dies, he dies pretty early, after he gets Wonder Woman going, two of these women continue to live together. And usually two of the women live together with him and sometimes three of them. And they were into the Aquarian gospel, Jesus Christ, which is not anything to do with Jesus, it's a cult gospel, and they were doing sex magic.

And the crazy thing is, bro, they were working their, what they were, their cult ideas into Wonder Woman. People would wonder why Wonder Woman, it's all about just women, you know, in Amazon. And they would spank each other over and over again and they tie each other up, bondage, right? Well, you find out in a sex cult, they were all into bondage and everything else.

And what's crazy, it gets really crazy, bro, because this is all so nefarious. Wonder Woman was basically creating the image of Margaret Sanger, who was an occultist and the mother of Planned Parenthood. In fact, one of the gals that he lived with, bro, is one of the gals that he lives with at the time and continues to live with the other lady is the niece of Margaret Sanger.

When Margaret Sanger got her start, she got her start with another woman, which was happened to be her sister. And they both were pioneering together. And her sister got in trouble with the law.

And they told her that if she continued to pursue what she was doing, that they put her in prison. So she stopped. But her daughter was right there and she was not actually married.

She was actually a student of his from the university. And he admitted that Wonder Woman was propaganda. That's his own word, that's Morrison's own word.

He was one of the living gals with him and not married to. And we show testimony. There's actually a book from a, I think she's out of Yale or Harvard, but she writes for the New York Post is, no, not the New York Post, writes for, man, I gotta get this right.

Well, I'll just say she's right of a major newspaper. And she wrote a book called The Secret History of Wonder Woman. And she's all, you know, she's glorifying Wonder Woman, but she was given archives into, that people had never seen before.

And she writes about how Morrison would give people helping him. Like he couldn't write the script for the newspaper 'cause he was busy writing the actual story of Wonder Woman for the magazines. So he hired someone and the person he hired, he gave her books by, guess what? Margaret Sanger and said, this is what you're gonna read.

And this is who she is. So this is all so deeply diabolical, bro. - Yeah, it's no coincidence that Margaret Sanger is, like creating child sacrifice, a Satanist, you know, what are the odds? - Yeah, you got it.

- It's, yeah, I mean, these things connect. And I just, I don't want anybody, I think if any Christian's listening to this and they're like, this is really far out there stuff. If you actually do some digging and you look at what the people, like for instance, Margaret Sanger, if you just look into that person, there are weird occult statements.

- Oh, that's right. And one that's really intriguing to me that has nothing to do with this conversation, I just find it intriguing. If you read like Nikola Tesla's journal, he claims that like he didn't have a lot of his discoveries from any like intuitive, like smartness on his part, that he was visited by something in his dreams and he would be given, you know, how he would solve his problems.

- Yeah. - Looking on. - It's amazing.

- Yeah, I mean, even Albert Einstein, you look at these dudes, you look at these people that are at the top, like all your low level scientists, those are the ones that believe in evolution and they're Darwinian. It's actually dumb. Like if you think that like you're, you're not gonna be at the top, the people at the top are usually either Satanists or Christians, you know, or New Agey, but some flavor of that.

- Yeah, no kidding. - And Darwin, you know, he wrote to his, you know, Darwin's Bulldog, who basically debated for Darwin 'cause Darwin was very sickly. He wrote to him at the end of one of his letters, people couldn't look for it online and they just, he writes to him, you know, you know, at the very end of his PS, thank you for helping me propagate the gospel.

This is right after "Origin of Species" came out. He says, thank you for propagating, helping me propagate the gospel, they used to, i.e. the devil's gospel. - Yeah.

- That's a fact, just type in the devil's gospel, Darwin, private letter, you know. - Okay, I'll have to check that out. But yeah, I mean, obviously we're on the same page with that and again, you quoted the text that in Ephesians 6, you know, we battle not against flesh and blood, but against rulers and principalities and we just, we have to remember, we're not materialists, we're Christians, like there's a spiritual realm and God's the ruler, you know? - Amen, bro.

- There are evil principalities that are out trying to thwart the gospel going to the ends of the earth. That's a big issue. Like there-- - Absolutely, one of the ways we show that is one of our, and we've already exposed some of this in our first video out of the seven, but one of the things we expose is, and we've already done pretty much all the work on it, I've done the voiceovers for it and everything, we might add a little bit to it, and I'm not sure what part that's going to be, but it's pretty close to done as well, is we look at the top 10 writers, according to the fan page, according to the comic book review, fans voting, thousands and thousands of people vote, the top who they believe the best writers are in comics, and we go through all 10 of them, bro, and we show a cult, you know, a propaganda or a perverence or a connections with all 10 of them, but let's look at just the top two really quickly.

The top two, top two comic writers voted by the fans are Alan Moore and Grant Morrison. Both of these guys are followers of the teachings of Aleister Crowley, the Satanist. Both Alan Moore even has a lair under his house that he had made where he worships a gnostic god called Lycan, and he talks about how he gets in touch with these spirit entities, and he says, "I thought these demons, they might be hypothetical, but they're real, they seem real." You know, yeah, they are.

And he talks about how Crowley made the Satanists, the good guys in his novel Diary of a Drug Fiend, they learn from him. He actually says that he's like Joseph Goebbels, the propaganda minister for Hitler. He says, "Art is propaganda," you know? So it's really interesting, and he talks about contacting these entities, and he has stuff about Aleister Crowley, promoting Aleister Crowley, the Satanist.

Throughout his works, it's mind-boggling. In fact, V for Vendetta, a very popular movie some years ago, was made from his comic, The Watchtower, just came out. Watchtower, or Watchman, I'm sorry, Watchman is considered one of the top 100 literary works by Time Magazine, okay, in English language, in English history.

And he's considered the Shakespeare of comic writers, yet he's channeling demonic entities. And he literally talks about how, I mean, V for Vendetta, V is the good guy, and he's an insurrectionist. But guess what? I bought the comic, because the movie, they don't show you what he's really about so much.

I mean, in fact, I was interviewed by a brother who had since died, and he said, "Joe, when I saw V for Vendetta, "I thought that was against fascism. "I thought it was great. "Hell, I saw Hollywood's War on God," which is one of our other videos, because what we show is Alan Moore, how he portrays him, his symbol, the symbol of the fascist is a cross.

Until you get to the movie, it's changed a little bit, right? And then the first scenes in the movie, he comes to a minister, right? Supposed to be a Christian minister, and he says, "Please allow me to introduce myself. "I'm a man of wealth and taste." And then he kills him, right? And then throughout the movie, you know what V says over and over again? "Do what thou will, shall be the whole of the law," quoted Alastair Crowley. So there is so much going on.

That's one of the writers, right? That's the top writer. The second writer, Grant Morrison. In the next poll, he may end up being the first, or Brian Ennis might even be up there, higher.

Grant Morrison, bro, same deal. He's the Matrix. A lot of what came in the movie, the Matrix, was made off of a lot of his art, the way he describes his characters.

Grant Morrison, he talks about how he got in touch with these entities. Then he went into his uncle's library and found books by Crowley, started reading his books. He really wasn't very good at writing until he started practicing Crowley's magic and started getting in touch with these demons.

Same exact deal as that happened with Alan Moore. These are the top two writers. And we show where one of his friends is being interviewed.

He says, "Yeah." He shoots these candy-coated bullets at kids and they're candy-coated and they get into their brains. And he goes, "The parents are none the wiser because of it." And it gets them nice and effed up. So, man, bro, it's all, we're exposing it.

It's right there for parents to see that there's this agenda going on and these guys are basically spelling it out for you. And we need to be aware because we wonder why, after so many years bringing up our kids in Christ, that after some time goes by, why they're more interested in superheroes, they're less interested in going to church and seeking the Lord, is because there's, and then also they subtly adopt these and sometimes more blatantly wicked lifestyles where they get involved in drugs and sexual perversion and all kinds of things. - Yeah, really thankful, honestly, brother, that you're exposing this and somebody's got to do it.

So I'm just appreciative that God's leading you in that way and you're being faithful to that. A few things just to bounce off of what you were saying. So like how you're saying, there's saying openly these things.

I think the way Satanism usually works is it's subversive, but once they start publicly saying things, like the populace becomes so numbed to evil that they can like say they're shooting, you know, little candy darts and whatever, however you, whatever the-- - Handicoded bullets, yeah. - Handicoded bullets. And they're saying this openly because they're, they want to say these wicked wild things openly because it shows the power.

Same thing like the Nazis would do this, you know, it was under wraps at first and then it got to a point where you would just openly say, oh, a Jew is like a dog or whatever, right? So it's-- - Yeah, that's a good point. - And then it gets to a point where it's in your face and they're saying it in your face to mock you. The communists do this all the time.

They, through propaganda, I mean, if you've ever read 1984, that's really George Orwell's whole point is people, like Satanists that love power, their favorite kind of power is when they can say two contradictory statements to your face and you're forced to believe it and not do anything about it. - Great point. And you're saying this today when, sounds very 1984s because the headlines today is, are that after Musk bought Twitter, now the Biden administration says that they're coming forth with a, they didn't call it the ministry of truth, but it sounds very Nazi-ish where they're now going to patrol what's said and whether it's accurate or not.

And they put the woman at the head of that, they put at the head of that was the woman who said that, tweeted basically that, the whole collusion thing was true for Trump. So she's the one ending that up, great. - That's wild, yeah, great, great, great.

And I'm not gonna lie, Joe, V for Vendetta is actually my favorite movie. (laughs) I'm gonna be completely honest. And I didn't know all that was there 'cause what I loved about it was what your buddy was saying.

It looks like it is this amazing movie of taking down an evil fascist state, which is obviously what we're seeing now with the controlling of speech and the, every single large corporation is in bed with the state and their co-ers together, co-opting the hatred of God to the populace. I mean, just everything you just said, but I'm excited to learn more about that 'cause V for Vendetta was one of my favorites. - Yeah, check that out because yeah, the guy that wrote that, yeah, you'll check it out.

The guy that made it is Alan Moore. And in the graphic novel, V's a Satanist, quoting "Sipley for the Devil" and "Do what thou wilt" and all this other stuff. And that's exactly what Alan Moore is into himself, the writer, he's literally, worships literally, he has a serpent ring of the demon God he worships.

And he literally says that we show him, we show him when we, not only, I mean, even in part one that we've already released, we show his Satanism to a degree. - Wow, that's awesome. I just appreciate the work.

I mean, I'm excited to learn more. So it's been an hour, brother. Really appreciate your time.

Let's just finish with one more question. - Sure. - Let's center in on Christ, the ultimate superhero.

So how is this information, how are you gearing it towards leading others to Christ to proclaim the gospel that these men and women, these Satanists, these evil writers, Alan Moore, Grant Morrison, what's being portrayed in Hollywood, it's specifically in Marvel and DC's "War on God," how do we proclaim the gospel in the midst of this and really highlight that these people are transgressing the law of God and that they have the judgment of God coming on them? And how is Christ, how's Jesus Christ, the ultimate superhero, and that he ought not to be blasphemed, but he should be exalted and glorified? So can we finish up with that? - Yeah, amen. So we basically use what the enemy uses for evil. We use their own, we use a lot of their own clips and so forth, almost like David used the sword of Goliath, who's a picture of the Antichrist, cut his head off with it, is we take what they are doing for propaganda and we expose it, Ephesians 5.11, have no fellowship with the unproofed works of darkness, rather expose it.

And by the word that word expose, there's the same Greek word that's used by Jesus in John chapter 16, 8 through 11, where he talks about how the Holy Spirit will convict, it's translated convict, the rule of sin. So Holy Spirit uses believers to unmask what Satan is doing with all the idols of this age and shine the light on it. And of course the light is Jesus Christ.

So we shine the light of Jesus and his word on it. We say, what does God's word say about these things? The Bible says, "The law was not given, "and with the law of Moses was not given "for the righteous, but for the wicked." So Hollywood likes to spin these storylines and we shine the light of God's word upon it and show it for what it is. And we point people to Jesus because ultimately, for instance, at the very end of the first video we just put out, at the end, we show ourselves, well, I'm in California right now, but we show ourselves in New York City, they're in the heart of New York City.

And we're witnessing to people. And I go to a guy dressed up like Iron Man and a guy dressed up like Spider-Man, two separate guys, you know, in those costumes. And they're at Times Square.

And I begin to witness them, both of them, separately, of course, and then, but I'm telling them, you know, what's your superpower? And I point out to them that they have weaknesses. So I point out to Spider-Man that you have weaknesses. I mean, you can't handle water, 'cause Spider-Man can't handle water like spiders, you know, and they've got various weaknesses.

And I say, but then I contrast that with the Lord Jesus Christ, who's absolutely perfect without sin and is omnipresent, is omnipotent, is, you know, omniscient, all-knowing, created the universe. And I talk about how much the impact that he's had, in fact, our very calendar is BC and AD based on his coming, his first coming, and he's coming back again. And I plead with them to understand what I say, who's greater, Spider-Man, or who's the greatest of them all? And this gentleman admits it's Jesus Christ.

That I encourage and repent and cry out to Jesus for salvation to sins, 'cause Jesus died for him. And he prays right there and says he wants to pray and repents right there. And then I'm talking to Iron Man and I grab his little chest piece, you know, and I go, "Hey, doesn't Iron Man have a weak heart?" You know, and he says, "Yeah." And I'm kind, we have just a friendly discussion.

I'm like, "Hey, you know what? The Bible says the heart's deceitful above all things and desperately wicked, who can know it?" You know, I start talking about the human heart, but all of us are troubled. We all have a weak heart. We're all, that's why we have wicked hearts.

We need to be saved from our sin and let them know that all of us have sinned, fallen short of God's glory, but the wage of sin is death, but God, who's beyond any superhero, right? God became a man because no one could redeem us. No one was found worthy to redeem us. Christ alone, amen.

And he was given the power, he's given the power to open the scroll and loose its seals and execute judgments on the earth and save those who will repent and turn to him. And this Iron Man too, just ironically, he says he wants to embrace Jesus and he prays with me there a prayer of repentance and cries out to Jesus for salvation. So we found a really good way.

There's a lot of ways to show the gospel and we love a lot of what Ray Comfort does because we believe it's very scriptural, is using the law to show people that they've broken God's moral law and that they need to come to Christ to be saved as lawbreakers because Jesus took the wrath of God that we deserve upon himself so we'd be saved from the wrath of God. But another thing that we use along with that is the Bible is very strong about the fact that lost people that don't know Jesus are held captive by Satan to do his will and they need to be set free from Satan's power. So that same gospel, because Jesus dies for our sins, to pay for our sins, when we put grace Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior, he not only forgives us of our sins, but he sets us free from Satan's power.

So we let people know that you're bound by sin, you're condemned, you're under the penalty of condemnation, like we all deserve, but we can experience the beautiful, wonderful grace of God because the God who created the universe, despite the fact that people are spinning his face, loved them so much, he died for them to give them eternal life if they about repent and put their faith in him. And now he delivers them from the penalty of their sins, but delivers them from the power of darkness and puts their feet on the rock and puts a new song in our mouths. Amen, Rocky.

- That's good news. That's good news. - That is really good news.

Amen. - That's really good news. Yeah, amen, brother.

Thanks for, yeah. - It's been a pleasure, bro. - I could sit here and talk to you for hours, but I mean, we walk through a lot and I appreciate your time already.

Guys, go check out marbledcexposed.com. Obviously all one word and all lowercase. That's for the documentary. And then Joe's website for his ministry, goodfight.org for Good Fight Ministries.

And you can check out what Pastor Schimel's doing. He has articles on there and a shop, podcasts, things like that. So go check him out and support our brother here.

And you can go on Vimeo is how you would rent the, the, the documentary, right? You'd be on Vimeo. - Yeah, amen. You could go to that either the way you just mentioned marbledcexposed.com or you go to Vimeo and just, or you can just Google Hollywood or I'm sorry, get some of them and mention other videos, but Marvel and DC is one God and you'll be able to find it probably that way too.

- Amazing. Hey, yeah, that's, I appreciate all that you do, brother. Definitely support Hope to Rent It and watch it here soon with my wife and, and, and, you know, support Jesus.

- Great idea. I hope you could see it, bro. It was a pleasure talking to you.

It's great to see your love to Jesus. - Yeah, likewise, brother.

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